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Should we assume Ted Cruz is lying on legal immigration?
WaPo ^ | Jan 6, 2016 | Jennifer Rubin

Posted on 01/18/2016 7:56:03 AM PST by Red Steel

Senator Cruz has massively flip-flopped from championing high-skilled immigration as an "unambiguous good" and calling for a 500% increase in H-1Bs and a needed, substantial increase in green cards to now saying immigrants take jobs from native-born workers and depress wages. It is simply inconceivable to see these 2013 and 2015 positions are anything other than political posturing from the self-professed "purity" candidate.

The group cites a number of Cruz quotes including this from 2013: "I think high-tech immigrants are an unambiguous good for economy and for our country. And I think bringing more high-skill, high-tech immigrants to this country generates economic growth, produces jobs, and so I don't think it makes sense to arbitrarily cap it at a low number." Now, of course, Cruz is parroting Donald Trump and other anti-immigration hard-liners in an ad: "I can tell you, for millions of Americans at home watching this, it is a very personal economic issue. And, I will say the politics of it will be very, very different if a bunch of lawyers or bankers were crossing the Rio Grande....

I suspect his original view - announced when it was still "safe" on the far right to support legal immigration -- is Cruz's actual view.

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To: gorush

We can assume Jennifer Rubin is wrong, as usual. She wouldn’t have a job at the WaPo if she were a conservative.


21 posted on 01/18/2016 8:22:13 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Red Steel

One would expect there are countless H1B opinion-writing candidates capable of at least the same level of swill. Media conglomerates should consider the savings available by replacing the “talents” of Rubin with the more talented Sami, or d’Estebrun or Esperanza.


22 posted on 01/18/2016 8:26:00 AM PST by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: FlipWilson

No argument on that fact, and with all due respect, that has nothing to do with the fact that he said one thing and now says something else.

This line or reasoning leads to holding no one accountable for anything.

The subject is Cruz and H!-B’s.

The only way to get at anything resembling truth is to look at each individual politician and their positions in isolation, otherwise no words mean anything at all.

He at one time espoused a position that to ME renders ANYONE completely unqualified for president and something that while not technically a traitor is for all practical purposes just as heinous in my opinion.

The question is the sincerity with which he holds his new position and his intent to act upon it; I regard this as a absolutely central indicator of if he really is going to work for the American people or the rich international corporations that know no allegiance or morality.


23 posted on 01/18/2016 8:30:09 AM PST by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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To: Red Steel

Nothing he said was incorrect or inconsistent, at any point (although he could have been more specific in one statement). We need more of the high-end types incoming - educated, professional, established, innovative, etc The day laborers, and the welfare dependents, and the sick, and the murderers and the rapists, not so much. Give us tons more of the former, and do our best to get rid of the latter. Invite and encourage the ones who make America greater, and discourage and deport those who take or or damage. Is it really that difficult to understand?


24 posted on 01/18/2016 8:34:15 AM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Red Steel

Yes you should. He is. But then they all are. No one will deport 12 million people, it is not fiscally possible.It would be a night mare. Ted wants to get elected and I will vote for him, but no, he is not being honest.


25 posted on 01/18/2016 8:39:29 AM PST by andy1954
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To: andy1954

There are three easy steps that do not require a new mass of law enforcement and Cruz has stated the same”

1. Initiate the defunct D-Verify.
2. Penalize employers for hiring illegals.
3. Either eliminate or substantially reduce welfare for illegals.

They will get their butts back home by themselves. Only cost to tax payers is the E-Verify system. #2 and 3 actually save money.


26 posted on 01/18/2016 9:00:55 AM PST by biff
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To: andy1954

Illegals can self deport or go to jail. It’s really that simple.


27 posted on 01/18/2016 9:02:16 AM PST by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: Proud2BeRight
Trump: “I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal. A lot of these people are helping us and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ‘em out, and we’re going to move ‘em back in and let them be legal.”

WaPo GOPe screed writer Jennifer Rubin has no concerns about a potential touchback amnesty form millions.

28 posted on 01/18/2016 9:49:21 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Red Steel

As he’s a politician, yes.


29 posted on 01/18/2016 10:00:23 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Red Steel

For me I am not assuming anything. The issue just needs to be settled once and for all. Rubin hates both Trump and Cruz.


30 posted on 01/18/2016 10:36:14 AM PST by Parley Baer
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To: driftdiver

I don’t know if it originated with him, but he’s said it. It probably originated in the second world war.


31 posted on 01/19/2016 4:03:55 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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To: driftdiver

The fact is, that statement is full of crap and would only be believed by an idiot.

Just because people are criticizing you does not mean you are right and only a moron would think so.


32 posted on 01/19/2016 4:06:23 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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To: RedStateRocker

Yeah yeah yeah

You trump bots are just as bad as the Obama worshippers. Well be hearing about people fainting at his rallys soon.


33 posted on 01/19/2016 5:31:11 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

I don’t care for Trump much, either.

Cruz is overall OK, but the H1-B thing is near treason, he’s a lying prevaricator and his dishonesty is a slap in the face or at least a reason to trust him no further than I would any other politician of either party. He still might be arguably the most credibly conservative politician running.

Throw then ALL out, H1-B or the guy who just snuck across the Rio Grand, not one damned cent to any illegal nor one green card until every last veteran has a house and healthcare.


34 posted on 01/19/2016 6:53:37 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Better questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.)
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To: biff

I agree, but I am not sure that is as much a difference as Mr. Cruz would have us believe. Anyone of the candidates could enforce the law and most likely will. I will gladly vote for Mr. Cruz (my senator) when the time comes. But he is a politician and no outsider, in that he is very disingenuous.


35 posted on 01/20/2016 6:32:44 AM PST by andy1954
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To: subterfuge

Not that simple. There will be due process (not because they are citizen, but because they are in our country). It is not nearly as simple as that.


36 posted on 01/20/2016 6:32:44 AM PST by andy1954
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To: andy1954

My senator too and I do not think Washington DC considers him an insider. Besides, when I an traversing thru a minefield I want a guide that knows how to navigate thru it and not a bull in a china closet that just says “run like hell”, pointing across the field and cheering me on.


37 posted on 01/20/2016 6:41:45 AM PST by biff
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To: biff

My own opinion is that he is an insider, just not one that is liked very much. Ted is a good man and a worthy person to support, but he is not that different than what we have. That is my fear. But support him I will as yoda would say. I am not a Trump fan, but he does seem to be the one less affected by the political trips of D.C.


38 posted on 01/20/2016 9:33:10 AM PST by andy1954
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