[House Atreides]

LOL - Shep for the 4th child. And, while you’re at it, add a 5th child (fred Astaire) born in an American military hospital in Germany. I’ll get this stuff down yet.

[Cboldt]

For Cruz, the rule is simple. Was he born the citizen of one of the states? If that comes back "negative", he's naturalized.

Even simpler, if his citizenship depends on a statute, he's naturalized. His citizenship depends on a statute, he's naturalized. See Rogers v. Bellei.

I don't want to get into Rubio and anchor baby stuff.

I pulled up the statue re Guam to show you by counterexample, that your contention was false, or at least had consequences that you won't like. Here is what you said, and I ask, do you still hold this to be true?

The ONLY damn thing "natural born citizen" means is that the person is an American citizen immediately upon their birth.

Is the point of this 10 iteration back and forth an attempt to prove or disprove that? We don't have to prove Cruz is not an NBC, all we have to prove is that he is naturalized, citizenship depends on statute, he's not qualified.

I think you are making this issue of much bigger scope, and I am not going to have the time or patience to do that.