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To: Duchess47
A natural born citizen is most certainly a natural born citizen. You seem to imagine that one must be born in the United States (jus soli) and that is not true. When an American child is born outside the United States to at least one US citizen/parent, jus sanguinis makes that child a natural born citizen of the United States. See Lowell P. Weicker, Jr., George Romney (most questionable of this group), John McCain (whose dad and mom were in Panama engaged in winning WW II), Obozo whether we like it or not assuming he was born in Kenya as his paternal grandmother claims to have witnessed his birth).

Now, a challenge: name THREE issues that you admit are MORE important to you than this Birther business. Just three will do.

90 posted on 01/17/2016 6:55:39 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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To: BlackElk

Well, that’s difficult. There is no issue more important to me than that this country follow our constitution.

Past that, a wall, a stop to illegal immigration, a temporary stop to legal immigration, an economy that works and jobs.

By the way, John McCain is a citizen by virtual of paperwork filed to show he was born of American citizens. Obama is not and never was a “natural born citizen.”


91 posted on 01/17/2016 7:02:00 PM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: BlackElk
When an American child is born outside the United States to at least one US citizen/parent, jus sanguinis makes that child a natural born citizen of the United States.

Is there a statute that covers that very situation?

8 U.S.C. 1409 Children born out of wedlock?
8 U.S.C. 1431 Children born outside the United States and residing permanently in the United States; conditions under which citizenship automatically acquired?
That is before it was amended entirely in 2000.

"(a) A child born outside of the United States, one of whose parents at the time of the child's birth was an alien and the other of whose parents then was and never thereafter ceased to be a citizen of the United States, shall, if such alien parent is naturalized, become a citizen of the United States, when -
"(1) such naturalization takes place while such child is unmarried and under the age of eighteen years; and
"(2) such child is residing in the United States pursuant to a lawful admission for permanent residence at the time of naturalization or thereafter and begins to reside permanently in the United States while under the age of eighteen years.

Speaking of statutes, Congress can only make laws governing naturalization. Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4.
Positive law (man made law) can't make someone a natural born citizen, only natural law can.

How can your statement be correct?

97 posted on 01/18/2016 6:36:22 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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