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To: Nero Germanicus
There is also Abercrombie saying that there was no BC on record but there was a hand written notation in the archives. Fukino has been all over the place with her statements. The first one that they have his original BC on record is consistent with a foreign birth being registered with Hawaii ( and also Abercrombies statement about the record in the archives ). She did not say they have his original Hawaii BC on record. I find it interesting where his lawyers , in a motion to the court, referenced a digital image of the BC instead of actually submitting the paper copy with the seal to the court ( or could have instructed Hawaii to release one directly to the court.) As far as the Sec of State of Arizona is concerned, he has no credibility. The day after they sent the "certification" to him, I sent him an email asking him 3 questions. Here are the questions and his answers.

Did you originally ask for verification of the Date of birth ?

Yes

If so, why was that excluded from the verification ? Was it at the suggestion of the Hawaii Attorney General or Director of Health ?

I don't know why it was excluded. I assume it was an error by whoever typed the verification.

If you excluded it at their suggestion, wouldn't that raise some questions in your mind ?

N/A

Now any competent Sec of State, when asking for a verification of a record, got back in the verification a missing field vital to the verification and assumed it was a typing error, would request another verification, not accept the one with the error as accurate.

Well, I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this issue. Nothing short of a certified copy released directly from the State of Hawaii to a court will convince me.

434 posted on 01/18/2016 11:48:19 PM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: TheCipher

Hawaii Revised Statutes 338-18 (b) permits inspection of a vital record by a person whose right to inspect or receive a copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction. Also a congressional subpoena has the same force as a court order from a judge.
Its a shame that no one ever got a court order for inspection or that no congressional committee chairman issued a subpoena for inspection.
Additionally, Dr. Fukino and Dr. Onaka can be subpoenaed and deposed under oath or called to testify before committees of Congress.

As for the date of birth, the Letter of Verification states: Additionally, I verify that the information in the copy of the Certificate of Live Birth that you attached with your request matches the original record in our files.

That would include the date of birth matching the original vital record. No one ever challenged Obama being age eligible under Article II, Section 1.
I assume that Ken Bennett, the Arizona Secretary of State never specfically asked the Hawaii Registrar, Alvin Onaka to verify Obama’s birth date. Onaka verified what he was asked to verify by Bennett.


435 posted on 01/19/2016 10:03:41 AM PST by Nero Germanicus
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