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What the Stupid, Awful Spat Between Trump and Cruz Says About the Sad State of the GOP Primary
Reason ^ | 01/15/2016 | Peter Suderman

Posted on 01/15/2016 9:46:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: ClearCase_guy

Trump asked a legitimate question.
He did not charge Cruz with being ineligible.

And I find Cruz’s response disturbing. I think its a true vulnerability.


I agree


21 posted on 01/15/2016 10:05:49 AM PST by samtheman (Elect Trump, Build Wall. End Censorship.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Reminds me of the Pirate of the Caribbean scene.

The pirates all are gathered in Shipwreck Cove to debate what to do about the East India Company Fleet coming to kill them.

The debate dissolves into a a fist fight brawl

Elizabeth Swan: “This is madness”

Capt Jack Sparrow: “This is politics”


22 posted on 01/15/2016 10:05:58 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Cicero

You’ve made a good point. The argument Trump makes about Cruz’s eligibility, or lack of eligibility, is not settled and needs to be adjudicated, regardless of how often wrong-headed editorial writers assert otherwise. Ever since Hussein got away with circumventing the Constitution by his cadre of mind-numbed cultists slamming anybody who tried to address Hussein’s ineligibility, and the RINOs feckless willingness to go along with that pretense, the template is now being followed by Cruzers. This jerk has no more special insight into this matter than you or I.


23 posted on 01/15/2016 10:06:02 AM PST by DrPretorius
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To: dfwgator
I think both Trump and Cruz are really trying to reach to insult each other, because they do fundamentally agree on almost everything... And they both look silly doing it.

Concur on both counts. The latest New York thing - come on, guys, seriously? Nevertheless, it serves to differentiate, which is the purpose, I suppose. The Cruz birther thing was and remains an obvious attempt to distract the candidate from his message and frankly is better dealt with now than, say, in July. For all the heat it's generated I'm glad it came up now.

This sort of bickering can backfire. Yeb's public image isn't helped at all by playground banter; it's already suffering from a lack of gravitas, which is what anyone participating in this sort of thing risks.

24 posted on 01/15/2016 10:06:27 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: SeekAndFind

Gee - a “pundit” that includes Pop Culture as part of his writing repertoire lecturing the two guys he must hate the most (not GOPe slackers)....


25 posted on 01/15/2016 10:07:13 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Billthedrill

Trump’s answer to Cruz’s insult on New York won Trump the nomination and Presidency. Cruz is horrible at debate. His 2nd grade answer to the birther stuff was silly too......your Mom......barf.


26 posted on 01/15/2016 10:13:26 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: SeekAndFind
The real headline should be: "Trump and Cruz trade blows, Bush KO'd."

I am disappointed at some of the hate here among Freepers between the Trumpsters and the Cruzers. I'm in the Cruz corner but am just happy to see that between Trump and Cruz the establishment candidates can't gain traction. It wasn't too long ago that Bush was the heir apparent to the RINO loser crown and he is dead in the polls. Can't we all just get along by agreeing to continue hating Bush and the rest of the GOPe?

27 posted on 01/15/2016 10:14:28 AM PST by Armando Guerra (Cruz 2016)
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To: Armando Guerra

Actually, that’s the way I’ve been looking at it. Trump and Cruz, totally keeping the Establishment from getting a foothold into the race. Even Carson (whom I don’t support), served as an extra a little extra buffer.

It’s been a most helpful dynamic, having three anti-establishment figures dominate. Were it just Trump or Cruz alone, it’s very likely the Establishment could strategize successfully and direct enough firepower to take him out. Hence, I’m still hoping Trump and Cruz jockey near the top together, through all the initial primaries. And then, just see who comes out on top.


28 posted on 01/15/2016 10:23:34 AM PST by greene66
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To: napscoordinator

RE: Trump’s answer to Cruz’s insult on New York won Trump the nomination and Presidency.

Not to thinking people it doesn’t.

When Trump goes on about firefighters, cops, and first responders in 911, you could see Cruz CLAPPING his hands at the reference.

Only UNTHINKING people would conclude that Cruz was referring to these New Yorkers when he talks about “New York Values”.

He was clearly referring to those people who vote for Pro-Choice, Pro-Gay marriage, Anti-gun politicians <—— these PROLIFERATE in the state of NY ( even Republicans in this state are like these ).


29 posted on 01/15/2016 10:25:08 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This dustup is what the Establishment has been waiting for.


30 posted on 01/15/2016 10:25:41 AM PST by skeeter
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To: napscoordinator
Trump's answer to Cruz's insult on New York won Trump the nomination and Presidency.

I wouldn't go that far but it spiked him in New York and I don't see that coming down any, and there's a lot of electoral votes there.

31 posted on 01/15/2016 10:29:01 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Armando Guerra
Folks need to ask themselves before posting the most recent criticisms of either Trump or Cruz - 'would I think this was a big deal if the race were only Trump or Cruz vs Bush rather than Trump vs Cruz?'

The negativity would cease and desist immediately.

32 posted on 01/15/2016 10:29:03 AM PST by skeeter
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To: sparklite2

I expect that Trump and Cruz both know they are in the home stretch and things are going to get brutal.

I sincerely doubt either one of them takes everything personally, because they understand that it’s politics and that’s the way the game is played.

And, who knows? Maybe Trump and Cruz want the GOPe salivating at the idea of them at loggerheads.


33 posted on 01/15/2016 10:34:27 AM PST by stylin_geek (Never underestimate the power of government to distort markets)
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To: Cicero

Of course, he writes for “Reason”. You have to think you are smarter than God in order to land that gig.


34 posted on 01/15/2016 11:09:17 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

“Sad state of the GOP primaries?” How dumb can you get? This is how these things are supposed to go.


35 posted on 01/15/2016 11:41:14 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WELYs3ns3Fs


36 posted on 01/15/2016 3:47:57 PM PST by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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