Posted on 01/14/2016 7:21:07 AM PST by CharlesOConnell
Townhall's Steve Chapman advocates marijuana legalization to combat El Chapo of the Sinaloa Cartel and other narcotraficatismos.
If we truly want to hurt the major drug traffickers, there is a simple way: legalize the use, sale and production of marijuana. - El Chapo Got Caught. So What?
Legalization in Netherlands has really solved their problems--right.
Legalziation there merely puts organized crime in a different court of play.
Netherlands has pulled back from some its legalization policies in the wake of the failures.
Marijuana is the least problematic, so lets count some of the ways...
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Government should be limited, but it should not be in the business of promoting an unhealthy habit. It should be in the business of promoting the industry, efficiency and diligence of its workers.
To do this, it needs to be recognized that the medical marijuana sector takes full advantage of the gray-market and lack of controls of child and adolescent cannabis consumption. This is a war that medical-marijuana has temporarily won.
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It is a war of ideas. High Times is a quasi-religious journal.
To engage in a war of ideas,
Legalization will only take us the other way.
There’s something to be said for following biblical cues and not attributing will to lifeless entities. The actual will in the misuse of these entities is inevitably a demonic will to which a human will yields.
Organized crime might still exist in a regime that is saner in defining what a crime is, but opposition to it would no longer be diluted like it is now.
You know, the dopers are so annoying, I favor legalization so they will shut up about it.
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The same or similar arguments could be made for drinking alcohol, or eating - I don't know! - asphalt. Similar (though admittedly less-drastic) claims could be made about drinking coffee or eating transfats. It doesn't matter!Government should be limited, but it should not be in the business of promoting an unhealthy habit.
I, for one, am not saying that govt. should promote the use of marijuana, so that argument ("shouldn't promote") is irrelevant to me.
It should be in the business of promoting the industry, efficiency and diligence of its workers.
No, it should keep its nose out of people's private affairs.
Regards,
My 7 and 8 year old grandchildren were exposed to marijuana in utero. They present with inattention, over-activity, poor executive functioning, over-arousal, oppositional-defiance, inability to release ideas.
The third child who was not exposed, has only picked up these behaviors by adoption, but he has a chance at normality.
My private affairs.
Don't quite follow you... The subject of this thread is the legalization of marijuana. Thus: Are you for or against the intrusion of Big Govt. in dictating what naturally-growing plant you can make use of? Are you for or against the the militarization of police forces to conduct the "War on Drugs?" Are you for or against the abridgement of civil rights in the warrantless seizure of suspected "drug money?" Do you feel that the "War on Drugs" has been a stunning success, or an abysmal failure?
Regards,
My sincere sympathy for your problems. We have those same symptoms in one of the children in our family (though neither parent has smoked so much as a single marijuana cigarette).
I assume that the same or similar symptoms could be caused by alcohol misuse, etc. In fact, I dare say that, statistically, alcohol is responsible for more birth defects, mental retardation, etc. than marijuana is.
My point is that the world consists of innumerable choices - some with good consequences, some with bad consequences. It is up to the individual to exercise his Free Will in making those choices. We as autonomous individuals should not surrender up that right to the State (or allow the State to take it from us).
The "War on (some) Drugs" has been an unmitigated failure. Let's end it now.
Regards,
I am, as always, for cutting the Gordian knot.
Let’s get right with God then we’ll see blessings in many situations.
I’m pointing out that getting right with God doesn’t seem to rhyme with substance prohibitions. (It also doesn’t rhyme with overweening governments.) The bible even frowns on that outlook on life. I’m more fundie than most fundies here. I’ll say what’s politically incorrect, if God means it.
Turn the war on drugs into a war on demons, and have it waged privately from within churches instead of within bureaucracies, and miracles will come.
Yeah I read your tag on extraordinary claims. I would be a skeptic except I have seen that it is true what Christ has told us. If you take Him at full credibility and make requests accordingly, you WILL start to see amazing answers. It is as reliable as if I gave you a kit for a crystal radio and told you that if you built it, you will hear radio programs through it. If you scoffed, I would rightly point out that you didn’t even bother to try.
It's called fetal alcohol syndrome - a teriible problem to which the proper solution is not, in my view, a blanket ban on alcohol.
Scenes like this are terrible. You’d have to have a heart of ice not to grieve.
And yet all hell has a racket going. It wants you to blame, not the misuse of the alcohol, but the alcohol itself.
The bible said don’t do that. Before you can have a theology of the misuse of something, you need a theology of the proper use. Then you begin to see that the theology of the misuse is a theology of the interference of hell with the created order. No demons and nobody obeying demons = no more misuse.
It is an astounding idea. But it is true.
Never happened: growing is still illegal.
Netherlands has pulled back from some its legalization policies
Just "pulled back" from "some" - not eliminated, and not all.
I look even at situations like that drug slum and wonder what could happen if evangelists came onto the scene. I do not know what kind of speech restrictions the Netherlands has, but God generally provides a way around the craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
You wouldn’t have to say hardly a thing about hell, for one thing. They’re already steeping in hell, and they know it. The question to ask would be more akin to what Jesus asked: Do you want to get well? And be willing to patiently minister through what might be a plethora of grief stories.
I had assumed that millions of believers in Christian churches of all kinds already were praying for the reconciliation of Mankind with God, more spiritual strength, etc. - all of which could be viewed (at least indirectly) as a spiritual "War on Drugs." Is that not the case? Do you mean to cast doubt upon the fervor with which millions of church-goers are already praying... for the rescue of daughters lost to drug-addiction, the restoration of health to those ravaged by alcohol abuse, etc.?
If you take Him at full credibility and make requests accordingly, you WILL start to see amazing answers. It is as reliable as if I gave you a kit for a crystal radio [...]
Matthew 16:28: "Truly I tell you, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom." Let me ask you, HiTech RedNeck: How do you think Jesus expected his listeners to interpret that statement (made approx. half a year before the Crucifixion)? How do you think most of those good folk interpreted that statement?
If you scoffed [...]
I haven't scoffed.
Regards,
“Government should be limited, but it should not be in the business of promoting an unhealthy habit.”
There’s a huge difference between not sending people to jail for something and promoting it. We don’t send people to jail for drinking, gambling, or watching pornography. Is the government promoting those things?
“It should be in the business of promoting the industry, efficiency and diligence of its workers.”
That’s a scary phrasing to me. We are the “government’s workers”???? Since when?
Sounds like a communist’s fantasy come true!
The war as you call it does not exist, the real war is over how to divide up the money. The big time drug dealers could not exist without the cooperation of Banks and Governments, so what is the war about? Clearly you want what you want.
The big time drug dealers have teh money to corrupt banks and governments - because drug criminalization shields them from competition by law-abiding businessmen. To require that banks and governments be manned only be the incorruptible is a fantasy - the only real-world solution is to end drug criminalization.
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