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To: Faith Presses On
Anchor babies are NOT eligible to be president nor VEEP!

Cruz's father did NOT become and American citizen until 2005; ergo he is NOT eligible. Neither are Rubio nor Jindal! Yet all three men ARE citizens.

It is NOT up to the populace to decide who is and who isn't eligible as we are/should be a nation of laws.

Obama, likewise, no matter WHERE he was born, was NEVER eligible to be president.

318 posted on 01/12/2016 2:51:09 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

We are a nation of laws, but when the law is vague, yes then law is that the people are to decide it. That’s the law. The people have to power. The Constitution didn’t define “natural-born,” though it could have, and there was no legal mechanism left for either establishing or removing a candidate based on his claims about his “natural-born” eligibility status.

I was just looking at questions raised about Chester Arthur. His father came from Ireland and emigrated to Canada. His mother met his father there but was from just across the border in Vermont. The family started moving around Vermont, where Arthur was born, but questions were later raised about his eligibility when he ran for Vice President, including rumors spread that he was actually born in Ireland or Canada himself, but it was matter of public controversy and Wikipedia says the matter “didn’t gain traction.”

Look at how apparently Barack Obama having a foreign-born Muslim father affected him, as well as being raised in Muslim Indonesia in his elementary school years. Then we have Cruz being an American citizen from birth, but living with his parents in Canada for his first four years because they worked there.

Isn’t that something that adults can decide for themselves what these things mean?

I had a foreign born, naturalized immigrant father (from Nazi Germany/East Germany/West Germany), and I understand how categorically, naturalized citizens shouldn’t be president.

But in the case of someone who is a birthright citizen, there is no such guarantee that there is some great difference in allegiance and shared understanding between them and another birthright citizen actually born on American soil. As I understand it, both Bill and Hillary Clinton were natural born.

The very intents to disqualify people with other allegiances of the “natural born” provision just isn’t there in cases like Cruz’s. Like I said, having had a foreign born parent, with different allegiances and who grew up as part of a different group, having different experiences, and knowing many naturalized citizens who were friends of my father, I completely understand why they’re disallowed out of hand.

But what is going on in looking at Cruz’s case this way doesn’t at all seem like in keeping with what the provision was put in there for.


331 posted on 01/12/2016 3:29:24 PM PST by Faith Presses On ("After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations...")
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To: nopardons

Well said!


345 posted on 01/12/2016 4:37:39 PM PST by Right_in_Virginia
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To: nopardons
It is NOT up to the populace to decide who is and who isn't eligible as we are/should be a nation of laws.

And the law says he is eligible.

348 posted on 01/12/2016 4:43:17 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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