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Ted Cruz and Donald Trump are Tied in Iowa – 27% Each
Overtime Politics ^ | 1/11/16 | Fred

Posted on 01/11/2016 7:11:52 AM PST by Jane Long

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To: Jane Long
Working-Class Hero: Trump Expands To 20-Point Lead Among White Blue-Collars Vs. Hillary Clinton.

Is Working-Class code from the pollsters meaning independent voters? Are they are afraid to say the I word and use Working-Class as a code not to say Independent Voters?

81 posted on 01/11/2016 8:50:54 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe/RINOs/the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass!!!)
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To: PJBankard

Thanks for the ping.


82 posted on 01/11/2016 8:53:58 AM PST by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Grampa Dave

Good possibility.


83 posted on 01/11/2016 8:56:23 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: rwilson99

With 3 likely justices to come in the next four years... Cruz is the only candidate that will reliably clean out the court.

Like he did when he championed Roberts, his friend, mentor and co worker!

Do you mean more Supremes like Roberts, an old friend and mentor of Cruz?

The Texas Tribune
Cruz, Justice Roberts Have History
by Aman Batheja July 9, 2012 5Comments

Within two hours of the U.S. Supreme Court releasing its opinion on the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act last month, former Texas Solicitor General Ted Cruz spoke out about the decision.

Cruz, a Republican competing against Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst in a July 31 primary runoff for an open U.S. Senate seat, called the decision “shameful” and described it as a “sad day for the court.” He accused the court’s justices of being motivated by politics rather than upholding the U.S. Constitution.

It was a harsh assessment considering that Chief Justice John Roberts, a man whom Cruz has described as a mentor and friend, played a pivotal role in the law being upheld.

Roberts has drawn scorn from conservatives for his decision to side with the court’s more liberal wing and uphold the controversial law’s individual mandate as a tax. Subsequent reports have suggested that Roberts may have been influenced by issues other than the constitutionality of the law in making his decision.

When asked last week about his thoughts on Roberts’ role in the decision, Cruz said, “It was heartbreaking and it was shocking.”

Both Cruz and Roberts clerked for Chief Justice William Rehnquist early in their careers, Roberts from 1980 to 1981, Cruz in the mid-1990s.

After Election Day in 2000, Cruz was a lawyer working on the legal battle over the Florida recount for the Bush/Cheney presidential campaign. Cruz told the Miami Herald that Roberts’ name was the first that came to mind when he was asked to help find lawyers to work on the litigation. Roberts reportedly helped with legal briefs and participated in a mock hearing to prepare Bush’s legal team.

“We needed the very best lawyers in the country, and I called John and asked him to help,” Cruz later wrote in the National Review. “Within hours, he was on a plane to Florida.”

When President George W. Bush nominated Roberts to the U.S. Supreme Court in 2005, Cruz was an outspoken advocate for his confirmation, calling him “brilliant” and a “lawyer’s lawyer.”

“As an individual, John Roberts is undoubtedly a principled conservative, as is the president who appointed him,” Cruz wrote. “He clerked for Chief Justice Rehnquist, worked in the Reagan White House, and served as the principal deputy solicitor general in President George H.W. Bush’s Justice Department.

“But, as a jurist, Judge Roberts’s approach will be that of his entire career: carefully, faithfully applying the Constitution and legal precedent.”

Since the ruling, Cruz has kept his criticisms mostly focused on the court as a whole.

Dewhurst, though, has not shied from singling out Roberts.

“When Supreme Court Justice John Roberts sold constitutional conservatives down the river and held up the worst parts of the disaster called Obamacare, we knew we were in for a problem,” Dewhurst said at a press conference Friday at The Health Museum in Houston.

Both Dewhurst and Cruz are trying to convince Republican primary voters that they are best suited to lead the fight in Congress to repeal the federal health care law. The Supreme Court decision makes the issue an even more important one in their runoff, both said.

“In my first day in the United States Senate, I’m going to lead the effort to repeal Obamacare, every single word of it, and replace it with permissive free-market reforms,” Dewhurst said Friday.

Cruz likewise vowed to work to overturn the law.

“I’ll throw my body in front of a train to stop anything short of its complete and total repeal,” Cruz said at a recent event in Willis.

http://www.texastribune.org/2012/07/09/cruz-and-roberts-go-way-back/


84 posted on 01/11/2016 8:59:34 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Trump is kicking the ass of the GOPe/RINOs/the media. Don't like him? He must be kicking YOUR ass!!!)
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To: plewis1250
Trump is DOA in Texas... We don’t take kindly to progressive liberals from New York in these parts..

Middle America has seen the politicians coming out of Texas. Not again. No thanks.

85 posted on 01/11/2016 9:00:25 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: xzins

“Trump wins 50 and younger. Cruz wins older.”

Well, I’m 75 and my wife is 73, we’re both all in for Trump, and so are all of our friends. Cruz’ financial support is problematic for me. Both he and The Cabana Boy are Hispanics uber alles. So is Boosh but he doesn’t matter at this juncture.


86 posted on 01/11/2016 9:10:26 AM PST by vette6387
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To: dragnet2

It’s hard to overstate the American love of celebrity. Trump is a big name celebrity, has 99% name recognition, and massive wealth. I don’t like the guy, don’t think he has any genuine conservative principles, but I concede he’s probably the most electable of the Republican candidates. His celebrity is helping him tap into a part of the electorate that would otherwise never consider voting Republican. I don’t envy your choice: principle versus electability. Democrats always choose electability as they have no principles - only a lust for power.


87 posted on 01/11/2016 9:10:36 AM PST by littleharbour
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To: littleharbour

Trumps principles aren’t bad, his defining principle is America first. Wall, borders, culture, fair trade. Not bad.


88 posted on 01/11/2016 9:12:55 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: littleharbour

Trump’s a low life as far as I am concerned. His birther rant on Cruz will result in me now voting for the most conservative 3rd party candidate come November.


89 posted on 01/11/2016 9:14:38 AM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: lodi90

Give me a break.

You Trump folks sound like a broke record.

“TPA!!! H1b!!!!”

One of which your wonder boy USES in his companies, the other is a flat out lie about Cruz.

How about on abortion? How about on gay marriage? Small government? 2nd amendment rights? Universal healthcare? Property rights?

Who has a long record of defending conservative principles and ideals?? Who has a long record of funding liberals and RATs for political gain?

Who is more conservative, Cruz or the Chump?


90 posted on 01/11/2016 9:29:51 AM PST by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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To: VanDeKoik

>>That is nothing but an empty boast.<<

So what? Fits into this thread perfectly.


91 posted on 01/11/2016 9:30:58 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Liz

Good for him. He can fill the lower level of an arena that seats 20,000...

In the most Republican state in the Union....

If you think the Chump is going to carry Texas over Crus, you’re out of your mind...


92 posted on 01/11/2016 9:31:52 AM PST by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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To: vette6387

Chump will have to take political donations in the general if he wins...
He’ll be dirtier than dingy Harry when it’s all said and done...

Of course, a grassroots campaign like Cruz’s would have much less reliance on big money in the general...


93 posted on 01/11/2016 9:33:27 AM PST by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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To: littleharbour

Sounds like your hung up on the celebrity thing. Maybe you can find yet another lawyer turned politician type to vote for. Some people enjoying being abused.

I call it Battered Voter Syndrome or BVS. Good luck.


94 posted on 01/11/2016 9:38:06 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: plewis1250

“Chump will have to take political donations in the general if he wins...
He’ll be dirtier than dingy Harry when it’s all said and done...”

Your medications are affecting your mental accuity! Are you a RAT troll? You can always vote for Sanders over in the RAT primary.


95 posted on 01/11/2016 9:39:48 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Jane Long
Woohoo! Go Cruz! Go Trump!

Trump/Cruz 2016 or Cruz/Trump 2016
96 posted on 01/11/2016 9:48:35 AM PST by hawaiianninja (Palm note to self: "Prepare for some serious 2016 house cleaning.")
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To: catfish1957

I don’t think you’ll have to go 3rd party. Trump’s ceiling is 30-35%. Once the race gets down to 2 or 3 candidates, that will become obvious.

Trump’s problem is two-fold: his history of support for liberal causes, and his lack of policy depth.

Both of these make it impossible for many conservatives to vote for him, as will become obvious when the race gets down to, say, Trump, Cruz, and Rubio, as I think it will.

By then it will be clear that Trump voters’ second choice is either Rubio or Cruz, and that Cruz and Rubio voters’ second choice is the other one, Rubio or Cruz.

Put another way, Trump voters will support other conservatives whereas many conservatives will never support Trump, but will go looking for another alternative or stay home. That’s the math of the matter, and if the GOP voters as a whole consider the math, they’ll realize that Trump will lose to Hillary (or Sanders), as most polling implies, but that either Cruz or Rubio will beat her (and hopefully Sanders.)

The hitch in this is that a certain percentage of Trump supporters have as their second choice either Sanders or Hillary. But I think that reflects their concern about where Obama has taken the country. They’re former Democrats who are attracted to Trump, but it shouldn’t take much for either Cruz or Rubio to draw them in if either one is nominated. They’re unhappy with the way things are going, and know Trump, but don’t yet know much of Cruz or Rubio.


97 posted on 01/11/2016 9:49:00 AM PST by Norseman (Defund the Left....completely!)
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To: Norseman

I was going to reply to this thread until I read your post.

So now my reply is a rousing concurrence.

You have said exactly what my take is.


98 posted on 01/11/2016 9:52:32 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: vette6387

Yeah... I’m a RAT troll...

Been here for 12+ years, been to multiple FReeps across the country, but I was a RAT the entire time because I feel Chump is a terrible candidate who is anything but conservative...

Okay....


99 posted on 01/11/2016 10:05:33 AM PST by plewis1250 (The pecking order: Christian, American, Conservative)
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To: PJBankard; RoosterRedux; hoosiermama

Trump leading in Iowa in latest Quinnipac poll...

Ted Cruz Chases Trump’s Lead In New Iowa Poll

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/quinnipiac-poll-iowa-january

Please ping!


100 posted on 01/11/2016 10:12:20 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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