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To: John Valentine

-Each country makes up its own rules about who is or is not a citizen. -

You are confused. Being a citizen is not that same as being a “natural born” citizen in the context of the late 18th century.

Read about natural law, which the Constitution is based on.


146 posted on 01/09/2016 5:35:23 PM PST by sunrise_sunset
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To: sunrise_sunset

I am not confused, and I know all about natural law. I have three books on the subject on a bookshelf not five feet from where I sit. The Federalist Papers also reside there. Unfortunately, I confess I do not possess a copy of Vattel.

I am not debating with you or anyone about the meaning of “natural born citizen”. I know very well what the framers meant by that term. I also know that their definition is no longer in vogue, and that the statutory definition of citizen at birth now stands in its place.

My advice to you is to get used to it. In this instance, original intent is gone, and it is never coming back.

That’s point no 1.

Point number two is this: my statement that each nation makes its own rules about who is or is not a citizen, national or subject is true today and it was true at each and every moment from the late 18th century and earlier until this very day.

We need not concern ourselves with Canada’s laws or practices, or Great Britain’s either.


160 posted on 01/09/2016 5:44:56 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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