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A False Start for Sino-Pakistani JF-17 Thunder?
The Diplomat ^ | January 09, 2016 | Benjamin David Baker

Posted on 01/08/2016 7:27:53 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki

Not again. The jointly developed Sino-Pakistani JF-17 Thunder has apparently suffered another false start. As the Diplomat reported last month, Malaysian officials previously indicated that they were considering the JF-17 as a contender to its fighter replacement program. Kuala Lumpur’s interest in the aircraft was signaled last month by its High Commissioner to Pakistan, Dr. Hasrul Sani, who, according to the Associated Press of Pakistan, discussed the fighter against the backdrop of boosting the bilateral relationship in general. “I think the Malaysians might be genuinely interested because Pakistan has a respectable defense industry, with the products being considerably cheaper compared to the West due to cheap labor.”

However, Malaysian Defense Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Tun Hussein has publically denied media reports that the country is considering the JF-17 as part of its Air Force modernization plans last Tuesday. Whether this discrepancy is due to a mistake or speculation on the part of Sani, or whether Kuala Lumpur has changed its mind, is currently unknown. One possibility is that China has requested that Pakistan withdraw its offer to Malaysia, due to tensions in the South China Sea.

Prior to Tuesday’s denial, author, analyst and former Australian defense attaché to Islamabad Brian Cloughley believed the Malaysian interest to be genuine, but cautioned there was more to consider. “Heads of diplomatic missions don’t usually say things publicly that aren’t accurate,” he said. “So there is probably something in this, in that interest appears to have been expressed, but the devil is as always in the detail, and there will have to be agreement by Beijing to any movement toward a deal.”

As The Diplomat has reported on many occasions over the last couple of years, the JF-17’s export prospects have been subject to numerous rumors and false starts. There have long been speculations that Myanmar, Sri Lanka and several African and Middle Eastern states are or have been considering the JF-17. Until earlier this week, when Islamabad and Colombo signed an agreement on the sale of 8 JF-17s for the Sri Lankan air force, Pakistani officials have on several occasions announced that the aircraft has found a buyer, only for this to be proven false later.

Malaysia is reported to be considering several alternatives for its air force modernization program, which will replace Kuala Lumpur’s aging F-5 E/Fs and Russian MiG-29s. Swedish Saab’s Gripen is rumored to be the leading contender, but Boeing’s F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet and the Eurofighter Typhoon are also being considered.

As price is an important factor for Malaysia’s choice, the JF-17 would be a strong candidate. Whether its decision to drop the aircraft is due to Chinese involvement or not, politics and the defense industry are still very intertwined in Southeast Asia.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aerospace; china; jf17; pakistan

1 posted on 01/08/2016 7:27:53 PM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Looks like f16 with two smaller side intakes instead of one large belly intake. Single engine.


2 posted on 01/08/2016 7:37:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Looks like f16 with two smaller side intakes instead of one large belly intake. Single engine.

Which is funny given that the US has given and sold F-16s to Pakistan. I wonder where they and the Chinese ever got the idea...

3 posted on 01/08/2016 9:36:20 PM PST by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker

Its kind of like an f16 with f35-type side intakes.


4 posted on 01/08/2016 9:39:03 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Alter Kaker

Here is the Chinese F-10, a near copy of an Israeli project called the Lavi. It is even carrying PL-8s, a licensed copy of the Israeli Python 3.

5 posted on 01/08/2016 10:18:55 PM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Alter Kaker
The JF-17 had its genesis in a joint U.S.-Chinese upgrade for the J-7 (Chinese Mig-21).
6 posted on 01/09/2016 4:41:54 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Looks like..

F16 Wings and Stabilator, Rudder is a Hybrid of F5 and F16, LEX's are F18. Fuselage looks like an F5 that can't stay away from the Desert Bar, but no pinched waste a-la Witcomb for lesser drag. I need to think about the inlets, however I notice the hump found in "diverterless inlets" . What Gen is it? I don't know, just a guess 3.5, no way Gen 4 or 5...

7 posted on 01/09/2016 4:54:43 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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Effectively 3.5 with some 4th-gen+ capabilities (diverterless intakes). Its a good bargain deal if you’re looking to upgrade from a Mig-21/F-5/Mirage-III without having to worry about Western sanctions.


8 posted on 01/09/2016 5:00:31 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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Great observations, thanks sukhoi-30mki. If the F20 was a reality and upgraded my guess it would be a match or have an edge over this.


9 posted on 01/09/2016 5:02:19 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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My two cents about the F-20: its ancestry in F-5 means that the F-20’s “heavy” strike capability would be limited to just one under-fuselage hardpoint. Not effective if you want to do standoff or strike missions. The JF-17 has three heavy pylons.


10 posted on 01/09/2016 5:09:11 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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