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To: kabar
-- For someone born overseas, they must take a proactive approach to obtain citizenship. It is not automatic. You have to apply for it. --

That just confirms our disagreement. Likely an academic point, figuring Cruz has a US passport, or there is a CRBA. at least you have backed away from the necessity of a CRBA in order for Cruz to be a citizen today.

-- First you have to prove that you are eligible. There are restrictions on who can become an American citizen even if your mother or father was/is an American citizen. --

I haven't expressly stated it in my remarks, but I've assumed for the sake of argument that, to use your vernacular, "Cruz is eligible." In my vernacular, if circumstnaces of his birth meet the statutory requirements, then he IS a citizen, before he presents himself to the examiner. Your position is that he is not a citizen until the examiner says so.

164 posted on 01/07/2016 2:49:42 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt
That just confirms our disagreement. Likely an academic point, figuring Cruz has a US passport, or there is a CRBA. at least you have backed away from the necessity of a CRBA in order for Cruz to be a citizen today.

Why the phony strawman? Of course Cruz is a citizen. He gets his derivitive citizenship thru his mother, jus sanguinis I assume he has a CRBA. I am not backing away from anything. You are making this stuff up out of whole cloth.

I haven't expressly stated it in my remarks, but I've assumed for the sake of argument that, to use your vernacular, "Cruz is eligible." In my vernacular, if circumstnaces of his birth meet the statutory requirements, then he IS a citizen, before he presents himself to the examiner. Your position is that he is not a citizen until the examiner says so.

Precisely correct. Until you prove that you are eligible, you are not a citizen. Cruz was a Canadian citizen without any conditions.

You do realize that Cruz had the option of not applying for US citizenship.

171 posted on 01/07/2016 4:21:26 PM PST by kabar
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