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HIPAA Privacy Rule Modified for Gun Background Checks
healthcareinfosecurity ^ | 01/06/2016 | Marianne Kolbasuk McGee

Posted on 01/06/2016 10:30:32 AM PST by MarchonDC09122009

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To: ozarkgirl

I’ve heard somewhere that around a quarter of adults take some sort of psychiatric medication, anti-depressants being the most common.
It is very easy to say all those people need to lose their ability to own a firearm, due to suicide risk.


61 posted on 01/06/2016 11:59:54 AM PST by tbw2
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To: tbw2
In reality patient psych records are protected by an extra layer of privacy, beyond that of more mundane records which are pretty much sealed. Although a lot of agencies may have access to those medical records, they are all bound by HIPPA, and in my experience, the legal counsels of the healthcare facilities go way beyond even what the law stipulates when guarding patient privacy. What you do have to watch out for are the blanket releases you are asked to sign, but once again, legally speaking, psychiatric records or anything resembling a psych diagnosis is protected at a higher level. I think legal concerns will trump the administration's move to bring this information into the public domain. What this will do, as previously mentioned, is insure that anyone contemplating looking for help will decide against it.
62 posted on 01/06/2016 12:11:40 PM PST by binreadin
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To: tbw2
I’ve heard somewhere that around a quarter of adults take some sort of psychiatric medication, anti-depressants being the most common.

You would think that was overblown but from working in HR and people's life insurance questionnaires came through our office, it amazed me how many people were on anti-depressents. 25% sounds about right. So there's 25% per Obama that should not have access to guns and counting their spouses or whatever (see post about beneficiaries being checked for "mental illness") that would make about 50% of people who should not have access to guns.

Meaning he only has 50% more who would not have access to legal guns and 100% who would have access to illegal guns through a much increased black market. Duh.

63 posted on 01/06/2016 12:19:23 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: driftdiver

The flip side of this equation is that doctor-patient privilege has been killed, tens of thousands of doctors have quit their practices because it was too expensive to comply with the data law, and dozens of federal agencies can now easily access anyone’s medical records.

The question must be asked: are we better off now? The answer is a profound “No!”

HIPAA and HITECH use the same awful logic as does gun control. They identified a problem, but then came up with a solution that neither even inhibits, much less ends, the problem, but creates a mountain of extremely expensive new problems on top of it.


64 posted on 01/06/2016 12:26:14 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“The question must be asked: are we better off now? “

Is the wrong question.

Is our data more secure? Generally, yes it is.
Is our health care better? No, but its due to insurance issues and not so much healthcare. Individual doctors don’t care much about HIPAA. They put out a privacy notice and dont really do much else.

The clinical regulations on doctors are much more significant. Its unbelievable how many regulations doctors have to follow.


65 posted on 01/06/2016 12:35:57 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

“HIPAA and HITECH use the same awful logic as does gun control. They identified a problem, but then came up with a solution that neither even inhibits, much less ends, the problem, but creates a mountain of extremely expensive new problems on top of it.”

HIPAA is basic IT security. Thats all it is except the part that lets the feds do whatever they want with our data.


66 posted on 01/06/2016 12:37:09 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: The Iceman Cometh

Instead of saying I’m not answering that question. Just lie and say you don’t own any guns.


67 posted on 01/06/2016 12:48:26 PM PST by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ozarkgirl
The rule does not allow reporting of diagnostic, clinical, or other mental health treatment information, Samuels stressed.

The next step will be to force the Medical profession and pharmacists to tell the Govt., who is taking drugs like Aricept , Namenda, Doneprizil, or any other drugs that indicate mental impairment.
To accomplish compiling this list, the Govt will of course have to expand and hire more employees to keep track.

Some people with non mental problems, are treated with drugs that can be used for mental problems , so they would be on the list.

Look for Obama to try this.
It is a double bubble for Govt., more power over citizens, and expanded Govt. -Tom

68 posted on 01/06/2016 12:48:58 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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To: Jim 0216

Can we PLEASE start talking about secession now? FedZilla is getting worse and worse.


69 posted on 01/06/2016 12:56:28 PM PST by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: MarchonDC09122009

And the new DSM-V code book for mental disorders will be expanded to include pretty much everything. Want a handgun for protection? Obviously you are paranoid and can’t be trusted with firearms. Voted for a republican? Obviously you can’t be trusted with firearms. White? You are so riddled with guilt and racism you can’t be trusted with firearms.


70 posted on 01/06/2016 1:14:30 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Norm Lenhart

>>They fought and fought until they got the liberal they truly wanted.

I didn’t vote for Romney in the Florida primary, so he isn’t what I wanted. I didn’t vote for Obama in the general election because he is the exact opposite of what I wanted.

But that was 2012. Now its 2016. Our worst fears have been confirmed: that neither major party supports conservatism and that more than half of all Americans are on the dole for one thing or another. No matter what their beliefs, they won’t vote against their meal ticket.

People are so stupid that they bitch about buying Chinese products and then complain about the price of American goods, so they demand that US workers get paid what Chinese workers make and then bitch when their own wages are cut.

The John Dewey public education system has done a good job at indoctrinating generations of Americans to think that Progressivism is kindness and a free market is cruelty, oppression, and exploitation.

America just wants cheap energy, cheap electronics, FMLA for every little thing, and lots of easy government money. The Yankee Work Ethic died in the 1980s. Conservatism died sometime in the last decade. The last pillar of Americanism, our cultural Christianity, is being dismantled right before our eyes.


71 posted on 01/06/2016 1:18:34 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Organic Panic

Yup, everyone visiting or posting to FR should expect a no-knock SWATing raid on their house when Obola and Democrat-marxist PTB give the word ;n)

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72 posted on 01/06/2016 1:20:26 PM PST by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: butlerweave

“sounds like Obama will never be able to buy a firearm”

So, if it can determined that he can’t buy a firearm could he operate a firearm or have control over a firearm?

He does have control of the military, domestic police, predator drones and the “football”, ie firearms.

So if a congressionally appointed psychiatrist reports that 0bama is not qualified to operate or control a firearm, take away his position as CIC.


73 posted on 01/06/2016 1:27:15 PM PST by grumpygresh (We don't have Democrats and Republicans, we have the Faustian uni-party)
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To: USCG SimTech; RushIsMyTeddyBear; metmom; CynicalBear; SkyPilot; tuffydoodle; tang-soo; ...

[”REAL ID” will morph into a national ID card system ever so slowly over years and years. You won’t even have access to a gas pump, school, bank, or mall in 2020 unless you scan your national ID card.]

For these reasons, I believe the technology, while fascinating stuff, will result in the reality of Revelation chapter 13. It could have been implemented decades ago with debit and credit cards, direct deposit, etc. alone but now will be even more feasible.

Revelation 13:16-18 King James Version (KJV)

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six


74 posted on 01/06/2016 1:30:06 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: alpo

They showed two LIV’s on TV last night who fell for that obviously-poor acting.

Unbelievable


75 posted on 01/06/2016 1:31:51 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: RaceBannon

a ping to you as well


76 posted on 01/06/2016 1:34:23 PM PST by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: alpo

“Your attorney draws up the paper to have your daughter sign checks for you or manage a living trust, you loose your firearms.”

Uh, no - at least not yet (that may be in a future rule).

Your disability needs to be permanent in nature. Being on a morphine drip in a hospital after a car accident doesn’t disable you any more than temporarily.

Besides, ALLOWING someone to sign your checks does NOT make you disabled. You could just be lazy.


77 posted on 01/06/2016 1:35:19 PM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: ozarkgirl
Give it a rest Norm. If you had your way there would be NO Republicans in office because none of them are good enough. We’d have a House and Senate full of Democrats.

So? Same difference when the Republicans are in there. THEY enabled this dictatorship without any opposition whatsoever.

We don't need no stinking Republicans anymore. We're better off with Democrats in there enabling the tyrannical dictatorship that the Republicans have helped establish.

Makes knowing who our enemies are much easier to know.

78 posted on 01/06/2016 1:43:16 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

No, we haven’t even taken the first step which is state nullification of unconstitutional federal acts.

Our template for valid secession is the Declaration of Independence (D/I). The South was wrong and lost because they failed to go through the process of valid secession.

The D/I shows valid secession 1) should not be “for light or transient causes” 2) requires a certain “patient sufferance” while “evils are sufferable” 3) notifying and submitting the facts of abuse “to a candid world” (27 specific abuses are listed in the D of I) and finally 4) “when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty to throw off such Government.” This is not a constitutional dictate, but, as the D/I says, what “Prudence, indeed, will dictate...”

Again, we have not begun. or have barely begun, to take the first steps in resisting unconstitutional federal tyranny which includes states nullifying unconstitutional federal acts and making their case with sound constitutional -based rationale. States can’t take federal funds on day one and then declare valid secession on day two.


79 posted on 01/06/2016 1:45:31 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Bryanw92
Our desire for PERFECT is destroying us because we want someone to throw the Hail Mary pass that will erase 50 years of Democrat gains, that they were willing to make inch by inch.

Very telling when Party hacks assert that "principles" are a "desire for perfect" and are a negative.

They forget we had 12 years of Bushes - where principles did not matter and the nation was dragged to the Left that made an Obama possible.

80 posted on 01/06/2016 1:49:21 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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