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Will ‘Electability’ Sink Trump?
Roll Call ^ | Jan. 3, 2016 | Stuart Rothenberg

Posted on 01/03/2016 8:53:05 PM PST by justlittleoleme

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To: editor-surveyor

And you have hard evidence of this being so, yes?

I don’t suppose you’ve considered that many “union” guys are now without jobs? Funny thing - I’ve always been a Republican - even when I was in a union (AFL-CIO / IAM) But everybody “knows” that ALL union people are Democrats, at least that is what you political geniuses are always wont to remind us poor ol’ “simple” folk.

I’ll wager your “calculus” fails to consider that Trump has broad appeal because people understand that, unlike politicians, he actually gets positive things done.

Americans appreciate honesty - well, at least the sincere ones do ... But then, you don’t fall into that category, do you?

Money talks - and BS walks ... Better find a good pair of walking shoes , you’ll need ‘em.


101 posted on 01/04/2016 12:16:56 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

Trump has but one rule ... It’s called “I win, you lose.”

I really like that rule. Too bad most of our “electable” guys never learn how to play it!


102 posted on 01/04/2016 12:22:21 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: goldstategop

I doubt any candidate has Virginia locked up. That state is trended Dem in the last two cycles, but is very much a battleground state. Virginia is essential in most Republican win scenarios, along with Florida and Ohio, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Colorado, Iowa and Nevada.

From your list, Pennsylvania and Michigan are what I consider Tier 2 states. They trend Democrat, but are winnable by Republicans in the right environment in a mini-landslide scenario along with Wisconsin, Minnesota and New Jersey. (With the later two being unlikely).

Illinois, New York and the People’s Socialist Republic of California are lost causes, along with Hawaii, DC, Delaware, Connecticut, Vermont, Rhode Island and Massachusetts. One of Maine’s CD is usually in far reach for the Republicans, but trends Democrat. The other CD and the state as a whole, is generally safe Democrat. Oregon and Washington are long reaches for the Republicans in a true landslide election.

The rest of the states are generally favorable to the Republicans: Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Arizona, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, West Virginia and Wyoming.

North Carolina and Missouri would likely be the first the Democrats would pick off in a worst case scenario (Tier 2), followed by Tennessee, Georgia and one of the Nebraska CDs in a true nightmare landslide.


103 posted on 01/04/2016 12:29:34 AM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: DannyTN
You mean like all the polls saying Trump is leading in the GOP primaries are manipulated?
You can't have it both ways.

If I was a democrat, I’d vote for Cruz in the poll in hopes the GOP nominates him instead of Trump.

No general election voting has been done yet. It won't be till November. It's just a poll, and GOP primary voters and caucus voters will determine the GOP candidate, not Democrats.

Regardless of the polls, I see no logical reason Cruz would pull more democrats than Trump

Independents. That's where it's at. And Cruz is doing better with independents.

Trump has very proactively reached out to blacks, hispanics, and women

The media have Trump calling Mexicans rapists. Mexicans make up most of the Latino vote. Don't see Trump getting the Latino vote over Hilary Clinton. Not even close.

104 posted on 01/04/2016 12:31:22 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: SmokingJoe

New York is doable if Trump wins in a Reaganesque landslide. But if Trump wins this state, Hillary will likely be reduced to DC, California, Delaware, Hawaii, Massachusetts, Vermont and Rhode Island.

That would mean that Trump would also make Maine and Connecticut competitive. Illinois and the Upper Midwest/Rust Belt states would fall, too with that much of a swing along with Oregon and Washington.

I just don’t see New York as a tossup by any means. Trump may narrow the gap and lose by a respectable 8-10 points, but this state is so far gone to the looney left, it’s not even funny.


105 posted on 01/04/2016 12:38:38 AM PST by NYRepublican72 (Democrats -- it's always someone else's fault.)
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To: jonrick46

Yes - and what has Trump repeatedly told us about himself? That he likes to be “UNPREDICTABLE” ... The fact is that HC and the Dems are crapping their undies right now.

That the MSM and the establishment hacks are all almost apoplectic over the possibility of a Trump v Clinton match-up, that they keep telling Republicans how The Donald suffers from a lack of “electability” and how he can’t possibly win against Hitlery should be pegging the BS meters.

Gee, do you think that, if Trump were that bad off in his “electability” that the enemy would be telling us about it? No! They would be shouting from the roof tops that Republicans should nominate him, and how great a match up it will be! They fear Trump, and so much so that you can smell their fear.

Remember Sun Tzu’s fundamental premise, as stated in his classic - ‘The Art of War’ (and don’t think for a moment that Trump has not read this treaties) - “All war is deception!”

And what are the MSM if not deceivers?


106 posted on 01/04/2016 12:41:23 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: caww

I think you’d like to do a little “mirroring” too - and see the reflection of Cruz, no doubt. Nice try, but ... FAIL!


107 posted on 01/04/2016 12:44:50 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: justlittleoleme
Trump is already campaigning against Hillary.

He doesn't think anyone in the GOP can take the nomination from him and I think he is right.

I also think there is a lot of material which is very incriminating against Hillary, which Trump has the wherewithal to get and no one else can.

Bill didn't have a wandering eye because he was satisfied at home. Just a hunch, but I think enough money just might pry loose some very interesting pictures off Hillary with someone else...

Or, another field ripe for a big surprise is Hillary's email. We already know her server was not very secure. Anyone want to bet that enough money will pry loose a big data dump from whoever gained access to her server?

There are a lot of skeletons in a lot of closets. Trump is wealthy enough tat a lot of people are going to be offering up some interesting keys to those closets.

108 posted on 01/04/2016 12:47:15 AM PST by CurlyDave
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To: SmokingJoe

Trump may not beat Hillary with the latino vote, but what GOP candidate would. The Lantino vote normally goes democrat. Trump will get a larger percent than any republican candidate has.


109 posted on 01/04/2016 12:48:30 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: SmokingJoe

Trump may not beat Hillary with the latino vote, but what GOP candidate would. The Lantino vote normally goes democrat. Trump will get a larger percent than any republican candidate has.


110 posted on 01/04/2016 12:48:30 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: WTFOVR

Well said!


111 posted on 01/04/2016 12:54:29 AM PST by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental disorder: A totalitarian mindset..)
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To: SmokingJoe

“Trump has the charisma of hungry crocodile.”

Uh-huh - and he’s going to eat Hitlery for lunch. But perhaps you and your fellow whiz-bang “experts” would like to be the dessert course?


112 posted on 01/04/2016 12:57:47 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Not when Bush is standing on his tippy toes.


113 posted on 01/04/2016 1:05:31 AM PST by monocle
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To: datura

editor-surveyor will be surveying his crow sandwich after Trump wins. He might want to take a seat over at DU at that time as well.


114 posted on 01/04/2016 1:10:30 AM PST by Blue Highway
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To: WTFOVR
Lion Kills Crocodile
m.youtube.com/watch?v=LoKumJU-Pl4
115 posted on 01/04/2016 1:14:51 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: justlittleoleme
Just keep seeing people make the point that we should vote for Trump instead of Cruz because Trump is more electable..... the recent Poll data is not echoing those statements.

Funny. High profile celebrities NEVER lose general elections when they first jump into politics.

116 posted on 01/04/2016 1:17:48 AM PST by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: SmokingJoe

Yeah?

GREAT!

GOP are elephants ...

GOPe are Rhinos ...

Dems are Jackasses ...

Trump is a Lion!

Got anything else? :)


117 posted on 01/04/2016 1:21:14 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: WTFOVR

-— GOP are elephants ...

GOPe are Rhinos ...

Dems are Jackasses ...

Trump is a Lion -—

No. That would make him a jackass RINO since he donated to both for 20 years and has been on both sides of every issue.

If he donated to “do business” then he’s just another corrupt billionaire.

If it was meaningless chump change, why did he do it?

Thank you in advance for your non-sequiters, red herrings and genetic fallacies.


118 posted on 01/04/2016 1:44:43 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: WTFOVR
Trump is a Lion!

Chuckle!
A minute ago she was a crocodile according to you. Until she got eaten by the lion that is.o

119 posted on 01/04/2016 2:03:34 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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To: WTFOVR
Trump is a Lion!

Chuckle!
A minute ago he was a crocodile according to you. Until he got eaten by the lion that is.

120 posted on 01/04/2016 2:04:35 AM PST by SmokingJoe
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