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To: doug from upland
It was not my choice, but we were faced with either Romney or Obama. Not doing everything possible to keep Obama out was foolish.

You gave several preposterous straw man arguments. I will give you one that is more appropriate. If you are having a heart attack and have just learned you also have to fight cancer, which do you fight first? I will fight the heart attack, which is immediately life threatening, and then I will fight the battle against cancer.

We have the same goal of battling the GOP-e. But allowing Obama a second term, after we saw what he was doing and knowing what he was planning, was national suicide. There is the right time and place to make a stand against the GOP-e. Timing is everything. It was not 2012. Obama was not just some Democrat. He was a person deliberately destroying the country. Jackasses let it happen.

That's it? File the scenarios under 'strawman arguments' and move on? The point was that most of the time in real life we never accept the terms of a lesser evil no-win scenario. Doesn't the highest office in the land deserve the same consideration? Well I do. But I admit it took a long time to get it hammered into my own thick skull.

Nice try with the heart attack though. Unfortunately you immediately contradicted your alleged plan to get the GOPe illness later: "and then I will fight the battle against cancer" by virtue of the fact that your only immediate choice is to vote for the GOPe today, throwing them their expected lifeline, and had Romney won, the cancer is metastasized beyond treatment. Face it, there is no plan to crush the GOPe under any Lesser-of-two-evil scenario because they rig the scenario that way.

Look, believe whatever you want, I'm just amazed that this kind of talk continues today, AFTER two more, subsequent events ..

Those two things happened since Romney 2012, and while they do not change the past, they re-affirm the bullseye correct instinct of those that bailed out in 2012. Those that you unfortunately call jackasses.

I'll bet you still blame Perot for Clinton, right? Well I voted for Bush41 right alongside you ... however ... this has become a retroactive IQ Test. I was wrong then. I would however pass the test today. You?

247 posted on 01/05/2016 4:40:15 AM PST by Democratic-Republican
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To: Democratic-Republican

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Doug has determined that his time is worth more than to dialogue with you. He apologizes if that hurts your feelings.


249 posted on 01/05/2016 6:49:16 AM PST by doug from upland (Some of you keep telling yourself -- Romney would have been as bad or worse.)
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To: Democratic-Republican
I'll bet you still blame Perot for Clinton, right? Well I voted for Bush41 right alongside you ... however ... this has become a retroactive IQ Test. I was wrong then. I would however pass the test today.

Yep. I was madder than hell at Perot voters at the time, but in retrospect, I'm grateful to them because they helped put Clinton in on a plurality, which was a good thing and would have been as good if Bush41/Dole had won. It blows me away that in spite of the fact that Bill Clinton was held in such low regard that never was he able to muster more than a minority to vote for him, pretty much everybody buys into the MSM myth that he was "popular."

He was rejected both times by the majority, it hurt him, he was steamrolled by the Republican revolution, and then impeached.

In 2012, I voted for a plurality at the top of the ticket, using my vote the best I could to weaken whichever leftist won, Romney or Obama. See my tagline.

253 posted on 01/05/2016 1:54:05 PM PST by Finny (Voting "against" is a wish. Be ready to own what you vote for.)
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