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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; roamer_1; FourtySeven
As for my Beth Moore information, let me suggest that GPH has not read my posts with sufficient care.  That First Baptist of Houston and Beth Moore have parted ways is a matter of public record that anyone with access to Google could have figured out for themselves, if they were open to asking the right questions.  Besides being cited in this Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beth_Moore

... the fact that she was once a Sunday school teacher for First Baptist but now has a women's ministry at Bayou City Fellowship can be found in a number of other places.  GPH should also note that I did not claim there was a falling out, only that I suspected that was a possibility, and that I was attempting to contact someone at First Baptist who could give me details. Generally, when you want to know what is going on in a complex social environment like a church, your best information is going to come from people who are there.  It's not that hard to do a little basic research. Just sayin ...

As for the question of revelation, the Scriptures do not say "silence the spirits," but "test the spirits."  We test everything against the measure of God's unquestionable word.  But we do not pretend that God no longer speaks.  For myself, I am not one who claims any of the usual charismatic gifts. But there is no Scriptural case for strict cessation of the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

Does that justify everything Beth Moore teaches? Of course not. And in case you are tempted to overlook it, let me repeat, I am not in any way justifying her teaching.  Her teaching, like the teaching of any mortal, is subject to the word of God, as she herself has professed.  

But even if after a complete accounting of the facts we were to agree that her teaching is flawed, jumping from that to the unfounded conclusion that Ted Cruz is some wild-eyed heretic with secret plans for theocratic world conquest is completely irrational, completely disconnected from reality.  Yet some will find it convincing, because guilt by association is an effective tool of psychological manipulation.

BTW, GPH, who said this?
Yet civil government has as its appointed end, so long as we live among men, to cherish and protect the outward worship of God, to defend sound doctrine of piety and the position of the church, to adjust our life to the society of men, to form our social behavior to civil righteousness, to reconcile us with one another, and to promote general peace and tranquility
Sounds a bit dominionist, don't you think?  Civil government is there to protect the outward worship of God and defend sound doctrine of piety and the position of the church? Civil righteousness? Yikes! Like trying to get moms to stop killing their unborn babies?  Or pushing for heterosexual marriage? Could that man be an early dominionist? Know any denominations influenced by this shady character?

Peace,

SR



  
1,023 posted on 01/04/2016 6:45:36 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer; roamer_1; FourtySeven
That First Baptist of Houston and Beth Moore have parted ways is a matter of public record

Your own Wikipedia link says:

"Additionally, Moore writes books and produces video resources based on the Bible studies that she conducts at the Living Proof Live conferences and at Houston's First Baptist Church"

That is easily verifiable from a quick look at Houston's First Baptist website, which hosts many of these video series, simul-cast sermons, etc.

Also you ignored the distinction between "being a staff member" and "teaching," which is what she still does at that church. Note that she started preaching at Bayou City Fellowship in 2012, but last year, as in my link, Houston's 1st Baptist was thanking her for 29 years of teaching at their church.

Typical Springfield sophistry can't rescue him here.

1,030 posted on 01/04/2016 6:55:58 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Springfield Reformer
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book." Revelation 22:18

I always assumed that prophesy was over until the last seven years, the "End Times." Until then we have the Bible and should be praying that God's will be done.

I would run like mad from anyone claiming a special gift of vision from God unless it fit the full description of the last seven years.

1,035 posted on 01/04/2016 7:11:51 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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