Posted on 01/03/2016 5:07:32 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
I see by your outfit, that you’re a “dominionist”...
Yet the sleight of hand here is that, as you have already pointed out, Roamer, “anointing” in a charismatic context is just a common way of speaking about God expressing His will concerning someone, and does not tell us at all what Ted believes about the specifics of hard core dominionism.
As for Ted being like his dad, I hope he is, in every way that is good. You may recall, GPH, that I told you before, my own dad and I had theological differences till he died. But he still loved and supported me. And many who knew both of us would argue we have a lot in common, much to my benefit.
Bottom line, you are still unable to get past your lack of real data about Ted himself. Sorry. :)
Peace,
SR
Yet civil government has as its appointed end, so long as we live among men, to cherish and protect the outward worship of God, to defend sound doctrine of piety and the position of the church, to adjust our life to the society of men, to form our social behavior to civil righteousness, to reconcile us with one another, and to promote general peace and tranquilitySounds a bit dominionist, don't you think? Civil government is there to protect the outward worship of God and defend sound doctrine of piety and the position of the church? Civil righteousness? Yikes! Like trying to get moms to stop killing their unborn babies? Or pushing for heterosexual marriage? Could that man be an early dominionist? Know any denominations influenced by this shady character?
I’m not sure what my “outfit” is.
To say one person is accusing another of something is legitimate. People accuse one another of things every day.
However, the Biblical term “ accuser of the brethren,” is very specific and well defined. It does not refer to the OP.
The basic evil by men in this world is original sin, not every instance of evil proves that Satan is involved. Surely Satan would be involved in counterfeit churches where they used to burn women accused of witchcraft.
Criticism of someone prophesying Christianity may be wrong-headed, but it doesn't mean it comes from Satan.
Besides, we are supposed to question - consider Gideon questioning the Arch Angel (Judges 6:13), "If the LORD be with us, why then is all this befallen us? and where be all his miracles which our fathers told us of..."
Probably not a cowboy outfit.
Pointing out the a dictionary defines the word ‘minion,’ does not make the concept of “Satan’s minions” Biblical. Only the Bible can make a teaching Biblical.
The best example is of course Peter. Jesus called him Satan when he tried to talk Jesus out of His mission in Jerusalem. Yet we know Peter was elect of God, chosen to receive revelation from the Father that Jesus was the Christ, and so definitely not ultimately subject to eternal damnation. In general, believers do fall into occasional sin, and any sin is, at least momentarily, submission to evil. It is why Jesus died for us of course, so that our errors, which do put us in temporary alignment with evil, do NOT result in our eternal damnation, thank God!
Peace,
SR
Your own Wikipedia link says:
"Additionally, Moore writes books and produces video resources based on the Bible studies that she conducts at the Living Proof Live conferences and at Houston's First Baptist Church"
That is easily verifiable from a quick look at Houston's First Baptist website, which hosts many of these video series, simul-cast sermons, etc.
Also you ignored the distinction between "being a staff member" and "teaching," which is what she still does at that church. Note that she started preaching at Bayou City Fellowship in 2012, but last year, as in my link, Houston's 1st Baptist was thanking her for 29 years of teaching at their church.
Typical Springfield sophistry can't rescue him here.
But the dictionary can accurately define the meaning of a word. I’m not a liberal. Words have objective meanings.
Well said.
‘Criticism of someone prophesying Christianity may be wrong-headed, but it doesn’t mean it comes from Satan.’
That is a very good point. People do become misguided at times, but it doesn’t mean they’re in direct league with Satan. Sometimes people are just in a learning process. Paul didn’t say everyone doing wrong was a child of Satan. He said this:
Galatians 6:1
‘Brethren, even if anyone is caught in any trespass, you who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; each one looking to yourself, so that you too will not be tempted.’
A person was called a “minion of Satan.” I’m trying to learn more about this concept, but not from a dictionary. From the Bible.
I always assumed that prophesy was over until the last seven years, the "End Times." Until then we have the Bible and should be praying that God's will be done.
I would run like mad from anyone claiming a special gift of vision from God unless it fit the full description of the last seven years.
That is precisely right. A declared anointing has to be pretty specific to a person and a subject before it would be an 'anointing' in the sense that old school Protestant branches define (not that they'd know what to do with it). And in my experience among charismatics, that is seldom seen.
Another lump in the loaf, is how far does one have to go to be free of the accusation of Dominionism? As I showed upthread, the Christian Right as a whole is said to be practicing Dominionism. Once smeared with it in a derogatory fashion, how does one *not* be a dominionist without ceding all political ground entirely?
I don't know about you, but I kinda like having the Christian Right around.
And I don't know about anyone else, but my faith not only informs my vote at every level of government, but it also informs my associations, my business dealings, my children's education, Just about every faction of my life. If there's a dogcatcher who is a Christian vs. one that is not, who do you suppose would be likely to get my vote? So gee, I guess I am a dominionist too.
As for Ted being like his dad, I hope he is, in every way that is good.
Hear, Hear! And that is to be celebrated!
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You’re hopeless.
To change your mind would require a mind to change.
Since you’ve never read Corker, it is impossible to bring you up to speed without posting the text to the thread, which would probably be pointless if you refuse to be enlightened.
I guess you will just continue to troll.
I see by your outfit that you are a cowboy,
I see by your outfit you are a cowboy too...
We see by our outfits that we are both cowboys.
If you get an outfit you can be a cowboy too!
Sorry... Smothers Brothers moment.
But consider the fallacy of this statement: That "The Christian Right as a whole is [falsely] accused of practicing Dominionism; thus, the issues raised by this thread are not valid."
Obviously, whether the whole is falsely accused or not makes no difference as to whether Dominionism exists, and it does, obviously, and is very influential and powerful in GOP circles.
Are your delicate sensibilities offended? If so, why don't you run and complain.
If you have a problem with that bottom-feeder being called what he is, I really don't care.
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