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To: artichokegrower
I wouldn't be cheap.It couldn't be done overnight.But “daunting”? Gimme a bleepin’ break!
4 posted on 01/01/2016 5:47:45 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: Gay State Conservative

IT’s a friggin wall. Not the Empire State Building. You drop preformed concrete planks in a ditch and tie ‘em together. Trump has already alluded to how he’d build it. Furthermore, the Mexicans are going to pay for it. Even if we did foot the bill, it’s a bargain when it eliminates illegals coming in and getting al the freebies from us.


36 posted on 01/01/2016 6:59:05 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Been done in lots of other places.

“On the night of August 12-13, 1961, East German soldiers laid down more than 30 miles of barbed wire barrier through the heart of Berlin. East Berlin citizens were forbidden to pass into West Berlin, and the number of checkpoints in which Westerners could cross the border was drastically reduced. The West, taken by surprise, threatened a trade embargo against East Germany as a retaliatory measure. The Soviets responded that such an embargo be answered with a new land blockade of West Berlin. When it became evident that the West was not going to take any major action to protest the closing, East German authorities became emboldened, closing off more and more checkpoints between East and West Berlin. On August 15, they began replacing barbed wire with concrete. The wall, East German authorities declared, would protect their citizens from the pernicious influence of decadent capitalist culture.

The first concrete pilings went up on the Bernauer Strasse and at the Potsdamer Platz. Sullen East German workers, a few in tears, constructed the first segments of the Berlin Wall as East German troops stood guarding them with machine guns. With the border closing permanently, escape attempts by East Germans intensified on August 15. Conrad Schumann, a 19-year-old East German soldier, provided the subject for a famous image when he was photographed leaping over the barbed-wire barrier to freedom.

During the rest of 1961, the grim and unsightly Berlin Wall continued to grow in size and scope, eventually consisting of a series of concrete walls up to 15 feet high. These walls were topped with barbed wire and guarded with watchtowers, machine gun emplacements, and mines. By the 1980s, this system of walls and electrified fences extended 28 miles through Berlin and 75 miles around West Berlin, separating it from the rest of East Germany. The East Germans also erected an extensive barrier along most of the 850-mile border between East and West Germany.

In the West, the Berlin Wall was regarded as a major symbol of communist oppression. About 5,000 East Germans managed to escape across the Berlin Wall to the West, but the frequency of successful escapes dwindled as the wall was increasingly fortified. Thousands of East Germans were captured during attempted crossings and 191 were killed.’


38 posted on 01/01/2016 7:01:54 PM PST by kaehurowing
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