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To: VinL

>>No, one fights. One educates and one fights. If one believes in liberty and freedom,, one fights.

>>Good Lord, Americans should be made of sterner stuff.

Not all of us are Internet Tough Guys. You can pretend to be whatever you want when you are safely behind your keyboard.

So, is your game plan to just insult all the Trump supporters until we give in? Are going to keep claiming that Cruz is possessed by the ghost of Ronald Reagan and that it is still 1988?

The sad thing is that every Trump supporter is ready to support Cruz if he wins. You don’t need to insult us at all. We are your allies in the big game against the Dems. But we think that someone needs to bring the issues out into the open. Cruz has FAILED to do that. Sure, Trump sucked all the air out of the room, but Cruz could have been that guy-—if he had the moral strength to be that guy. He doesn’t. He’s a smart guy and a great debater trying to lead a nation of idiots.


51 posted on 12/28/2015 4:27:17 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

It isn’t 1988 anymore! The world that your brand of perfect conservatism exists in is like a town in a model train layout. We aren’t the Center Right nation on the Left=Socialism/Right=Free Market scale we once were. We are a Far Left and Far Right nation on the European model (Left=Globalism/Right=Nationalism).

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Don’t deflect it on me. That’s what you said, and that’s what I reacted to. You posit that we exist in a European socialist model, and that’s why you support Trump.

I advanced that “European Socialism” is diametrically opposed to what FR purports to stand for— and certainly what Cruz stands for.

I’ve insulted no one. I merely made a statement of fact. Doctrinaire conservatives stand with Cruz— “European Socialists” stand with Trump.


58 posted on 12/28/2015 4:46:59 PM PST by VinL (It is better to suffer every wrong, then to consent to wrong.)
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To: Bryanw92

“The sad thing is that every Trump supporter is ready to support Cruz if he wins..”

The thing is that before the Cruz people went on their mission to get Trump because he didn’t “implode” like they bet on, few Trump people were remotely against Cruz in any way. Many of us started on the Cruz side!

Now that they are using many times talking points from leftist media outlets to go after Trump and his supporters. So for a great deal of us, we are near washing our hand s of them, and wishing the best of luck against Hillary if he manages to win the nomination, because the crap they do in the primaries wont work on the left.

Cruz could have had the Trump position, and he didnt take those positions early. Thar’s not our fault.


64 posted on 12/28/2015 5:03:00 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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