good God. msnbc. someone on FR is extolling the virtues of freaking PMSNBC .... And is blithely oblivious to what must have happened to him for that to have occurred.
Actually I (do not) recommend MSNBC for any other programming, their network is terribly biased in every other show I have see in every other day of the week.
Terrible in fact.
But Morning Joe is good.