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To: JayGalt

I think that Obama is what the Framers were trying to avoid with their birth laws. I’m not saying there is a fake birth certificate.

I’m saying that his loyalties are divided by the nature of his tenuous connection to our country. First, he is the child of a foreigner from an Islamic background. His mother was very young, and then remarried another Islamic foreigner who raised Obama a considerable period of time in Indonesia, an Islamic country.

His loyalties are at best mixed. I think they’re in opposition to America.

In the case of Rubio his parents really had no place else to go and knew it. The case of his mother is different than his father who held out longer. Perhaps he was hoping to return to Cuba. I don’t know.

In any case, Rubio was born in America and connected to America.

In the case of Ted Cruz, his mother is clearly an American citizen with a lifelong connection to our country. His Cuban father might have been similar to Rubio’s, hoping perhaps for a return to Cuba, but he overcame that in receiving Canadian citizenship. Cruz received Canadian citizenship by virtue of birth there, but his mother had no binding emotional connection to that country. Nor did his father, really.

They left and returned to the US when Cruz was about 3, iirc. Cruz’s connection has never been anyplace but to this country. Humans have little in the way of memory prior to 3 years old.


168 posted on 12/21/2015 2:49:48 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support the troops pray for their victory!)
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To: xzins

I agree completely with your analysis. I am concerned only that we protect the country from being ruled with someone who doesn’t have American loyalties.

The situation needs to be clarified even though no matter what laws you write you can’t avoid a possibility of that happening, nor can you avoid the possibility that true patriots such as Cruz will have to serve the country in another capacity than President depending on the definition of natural born. That last point is the silver lining in the cloud of our present mess, Cruz can run and hopefully in the near future the criterion can be clarified for the future. In an imperfect world we need to take our wins as we find them.


171 posted on 12/21/2015 3:08:46 PM PST by JayGalt
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