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Su-24 flight recorder confirms Russian aircraft did not violate Turkish airspace
Pravda ^
| December 18, 2015
Posted on 12/19/2015 11:29:54 AM PST by don-o
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Yes I know it's Pravda. But we also post from NY Times and Wash Post.
Second, video at source charges that US must give the "GO" before Turkey is allowed to fire. Sounds plausible.
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:29:54 AM PST
by
don-o
To: don-o
Garmin ad. It is truly amazing that a hand held GPS taped to the cockpit dash survived that crash.
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:34:48 AM PST
by
mad_as_he$$
("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
To: mad_as_he$$
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:37:21 AM PST
by
don-o
(I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
To: don-o
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:38:05 AM PST
by
2banana
(My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
To: don-o
Turkey will still blow it off saying it’s made up propaganda and lies.
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:39:43 AM PST
by
SkyDancer
("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
To: don-o
Oh dear, Pravda says the jet did not violate Turkish airspace, while Russia Today reports that the Russians admit to violating Turkish airspace.
Which Russian propaganda outlet to believe?
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:41:52 AM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: don-o
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:42:49 AM PST
by
mad_as_he$$
("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
To: don-o
Yes I know it's Pravda. But we also post from NY Times and Wash PostSometimes even the National Enquirer is more accurate than the NY Times and Wash Post.
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:44:45 AM PST
by
darkwing104
(Forgive but don't forget)
To: darkwing104
After a closer look, this is Pravda reporting what RIA Novosti reported. But I thought RIA Novosti no longer exists, having been renamed Sputnik. So, we have four propaganda outlets, including RT.
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:48:57 AM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: don-o
“US must give the “GO” before Turkey is allowed to fire. Sounds plausible.”
Not plausible, to me.
Saying the Turks are hamstrung by The Messiah is not really believable as no one respects The Messiah, too include the Turks, and the Turks would not sacrifice their airspace/sovereignty all on the say-so of The Messiah.
The Russians would never lie or make up “evidence” to prove they are as pure as driven snow. Of course, just MHO.
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:49:07 AM PST
by
Hulka
To: don-o
I still give anything published by Russia media zero credence. Granted, they may actually tell the truth from time to time, but who can tell?
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:54:12 AM PST
by
catnipman
(Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
To: mad_as_he$$
Even if it did cross over Turkish airspace, it was only for about 30 seconds. There must have been an awacs overhead with an F-16 in the area just waiting for this to happen.
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posted on
12/19/2015 11:57:32 AM PST
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Vic S
To: don-o
hell, back in the day Tomcats duct taped(Whistler i believe)fuzzbusters in the cockpits to know when they were getting lit-up
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:06:39 PM PST
by
Chode
(Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -w- NO Pity for the LAZY - Luke, 22:36)
To: SkyDancer
Turkey will still blow it off saying it's made up propaganda and lies. Yep. It really doesn't matter what Turkey or Russia say. Or the US, or Syria, or the UN, or anyone else. They are all quite willing to lie to advance their own particular interests.
Except maybe the Swiss. If the Swiss investigated the incident, I might believe them. Maybe.
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:17:40 PM PST
by
Leaning Right
(Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
To: Vic S
Pretty sure Turkey was crying about previous incursions. Interesting the widely divergent claims as to the flight path.
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:18:31 PM PST
by
mad_as_he$$
("It gets late early around here..." Yogi)
To: 1rudeboy
Which Russian propaganda outlet to believe? They have nothing on the sultans of sham operating CNN, FOX, ABC, NBC and the rest of U.S. MSM.
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:21:40 PM PST
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
To: dragnet2
Spoken like someone who doesn't follow Russian media. The American outlets you list can only aspire to the Russian level.
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:22:54 PM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: Vic S
Do you have a link to where that image originally appeared?
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:24:20 PM PST
by
1rudeboy
To: Vic S
The overflight that the Turks claim (as shown on your map) was over Turkey's Hatay Province. Hatay Province was essentially stolen from Syria by Turkey in the late 1930's.
The Syrians never recognized that move. Most Syrian maps still show Hatay as part of Syria.
Interesting, eh?
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:26:06 PM PST
by
Leaning Right
(Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
To: 1rudeboy
Try to keep up. Russia learned from the U.S. MSM.
U.S. media are 24/7 world class biased, liars, cons, packaged choreographer, rehearsed and given to you by fashion models with twinkles in their eye.
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posted on
12/19/2015 12:29:00 PM PST
by
dragnet2
(Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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