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To: caww
there's so any things wrong with this entire situation.

Yes. For example, the family is tasked with caring for Jahi, when medical professionals should be paid by the insurance to provide care. I don't think her family is up to the task. They should know better than to apply acrylic nails to fingers suffering from edema. You can see the damage from this practice. Still, they must be doing something right. Jahi is still alive two years later. A lot of hard work has gone into taking care of her. That alone would be hard enough, without having to fight off bastards wanting her killed. I can see some mistakes the family has made, but I'm impressed with them for the mistakes they haven't made.

As a fellow caregiver, I can say, it's not a job for sissies. It's hard work, and it doesn't help to have people actively getting in the way. I can understand the mindset of a caregiver who loves unconditionally. I cannot understand the mindset of strangers who want that care to cease.

145 posted on 12/19/2015 12:50:57 PM PST by BykrBayb (Lung cancer free since 11/9/07. Colon cancer free since 7/7/15. ~ Þ)
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People have been on life support for well over a decade before....As long as ‘a brain dead patient’ is kept on a ventilator, the heart will still beat, the lungs will still function, the kidneys will still make urine, and muscle reflexes will still exist. ....The heart rate is essentially reflex. It doesn’t require the brain to function. The actual beating is triggered in the heart by the sinoatrial node, but the rate is controlled by the ‘brain stem’.... Her kidneys may function because her heart is pumping oxygenated blood through her... Her blood is oxygenated because a machine is breathing for her.... But a beating heart does not equal life....the heart is just a muscular pump, and it does not determine the person; the brain does.

Additionall...the body only starts to decompose fully if the cells are deprived of oxygen and die.... However the ventilator is continuing to oxygenate her blood and her heart is continuing to pump that oxygenated blood...and her cells are being fed numerous nutrients as well as massive hormones......thus her decomposing body is being artificially sustained, but it’s still decomposing and well was over a year ago.

The family’s claims are exactly that, claims, with ‘no verifiable confirmation’ the claims have any merit, despite the more than adequate time for them to get that “proof”. They have not done so....Unless a ‘legitimate’ medical facility is going to offer to enroll her in a study to test for all of the possible signs of continuing existence and her mother accepts the offer, it’s moot. ...

So far the only people to testify to her condition are her family and the personnel allied with the sketchy institute none of whom have personally examined her in a manner to possibly overturn the diagnosis of brain death, or to define a new category........

So, for me, she’s dead and will remain dead. ......there has been a death certificate issued. The burden of proof IS on the family their attorneys and the medical personnel who wish to overturn the diagnosis she’s alive.... They haven’t produced one credible shred of evidence to date.

If the plan was to use medical test results as “proof” to refute an alleged prior misdiagnosis, the testing should have been done under the authority of a licensed and qualified MD, at a hospital or other clinical facility qualified to provide the services. That didn’t happen.


150 posted on 12/19/2015 5:29:03 PM PST by caww
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