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Cop shoots suspect escaping crash
http://www.cnn.com/videos ^ | Wed December 16, 2015 | cnn

Posted on 12/17/2015 8:00:32 AM PST by redreno

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To: redreno

Furthermore, it is unbelievable how fat this cop is. I understand that law enforcement has the fattest employees of any profession. This is ridiculous. I think they should run a quarterly physical fitness test and it should be a tough one along the lines of the Marine Corps’.


21 posted on 12/17/2015 8:58:01 AM PST by rey
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To: redreno

I watched the video.

The guy was climbing out of the vehicle, and was immediately shot by the cop.

Pretty sick to see a cop do that.

And even if the guy was “trying to escape,” all jackass cop had to do was collect the license tag or VIN off the car to know where the suspect came from.

What a disgusting use of force on display here.


22 posted on 12/17/2015 9:12:36 AM PST by Prole
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To: eyeamok

Unfortunately the LAW is clear on this,

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Great. Show me the California law that applies to a police officer in that situation.


23 posted on 12/17/2015 9:34:28 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

How did the cop know it was the driver climbing out?


24 posted on 12/17/2015 9:44:38 AM PST by GrootheWanderer
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To: redreno

Cops- You don’t have to love ‘em.


25 posted on 12/17/2015 9:53:45 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Moonman62

“The caption under the video says the officer claims it was an accidental discharge. So yes, it was a bad shooting, but it wasn’t premeditated murder.”

You don’t put your finger on the trigger unless you INTEND to shoot! It takes only a split second to move your finger from the side of the weapon to the trigger! This is an intentional act, and as several have said ATTEMPTED MURDER under color of authority.


26 posted on 12/17/2015 10:01:08 AM PST by vette6387
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To: rey

Since you don’t like to bash “fat butt” cops, here is the DA’s report if you’d like more information.

https://www.buttecounty.net/da/Feaster%20OIS%20-%20Final%20Lay%20Report.pdf


27 posted on 12/17/2015 10:03:02 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: vette6387

Read the DA’s report in my post #27.


28 posted on 12/17/2015 10:06:18 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62
Instead of cop getting "Glock leg," suspect got "Glock spine."

Thanx for posting DA report.

29 posted on 12/17/2015 10:30:17 AM PST by donozark (Herbicides improve visibility.)
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To: USNBandit

In Oklahoma a police officer can shoot a fleeing felon if he is a danger to the community, i.e., he is armed.


30 posted on 12/17/2015 10:51:27 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Moonman62

“Read the DA’s report in my post #27.”

Thanks for the redirect. But as with all these reports, it’s ALL about operative LAW. There’s nothing about whether or not there was a NEED for the gun to come out. And then there’s the DA saying “it’s different” because the driver is stiill alive! Yeah, he’s alive, but probably won’t have much of a life going forward together with the fact that he caused the death of his wife. I am still of the opinion that for cops today, the use of a firearm is way to easy. It’s the first tool they use, not the last. There is little or no respect for the lives of the citizens they are supposed to protect. We need good law enforcement, but we are not getting it in large measure. For me this cop is still a fat turd who should be removed from duty permanently.


31 posted on 12/17/2015 10:56:07 AM PST by vette6387
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To: Resolute Conservative

Doesn’t sound like any running was involved.


32 posted on 12/17/2015 10:59:21 AM PST by mcshot (The "Greatest Generation" would never have allowed the trashing of our Republic.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
They do pose a deadly threat.

Equine feces. Climbing out of the car? Deadly to whom? Not to the officer.

And when deadly force is the answer, then too bad for the drunk.

Um, deadly force is not the answer to a guy climbing out of a car. The officer did not have any knowledge as to whether the driver was drunk or whether he'd had a stroke for example. It was only known that he was drunk after the shooting.

From the standpoint of support for unalienable Constitutional rights to life, liberty, and due process, your posts on this thread are appalling.

33 posted on 12/17/2015 11:12:29 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Dupes for Donald, Chumps for Trump)
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To: SVTCobra03

Yes, that would meet the Tenn v Garner criteria. A drunk who hasn’t even extricated himself from a vehicle crash doesn’t meet that criteria. Evidently this officer claims it was an accidental dishcharge.


34 posted on 12/17/2015 11:23:16 AM PST by USNBandit (Sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Moonman62

Stress and anxiety? Give me a break. He is a professional and he is paid to deal with stress and anxiety.

Furthermore, until law enforcement deals with firearms in the manner akin to the USMC, where accidental discharges are never tolerated, police will act in this manner (I do not believe this was an accident). The USMC’s position is you are a professional in charge of your weapon. As a professional, things like this do not happen. I have not known of a Marine who did not lose rank and pay for an accidental discharge. Police agencies need to adopt the same zero tolerance policies. I cannot remember a police officer disciplined for accidental discharge. There have been many “accidents” in my county. In my opinion, they need to be dismissed.

Were I a fellow officer I would want nothing to do with this guy. If this is the sort of “accident” he has he is not safe to work around. If it was an accident why didn’t he call in shots fired? He acts as though nothing happened.

A good rule of thumb is if you cannot do it without a badge do not do it with one. If you or I did this we would be looking at death row.

The officer’s physical conditioning is such that the firearm was his only means of securing the individual. This should not be. There is no reason he cannot be fit. If he has a physical problem, he needs to be retired.

Had one of our service members done this they would have been hanged. Why do officers have more latitude in dealing with our citizenry than our service personnel with an enemy?

Generally, I am supportive of law enforcement and appreciate the difficult work they do but there are bad officers. I buy very little of what is in that report. It reads like a high schooler’s list of excuses.


35 posted on 12/17/2015 1:31:37 PM PST by rey
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To: jaydubya2

“I read some other articles and the cop is saying it was an accidental discharge”

There is no such thing. It was either intentional or negligent.

Period.

L


36 posted on 12/17/2015 1:34:16 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Farmer Dean

Agreed. This cop is in big trouble. He will be charged eventually.

L


37 posted on 12/17/2015 1:36:40 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker

Please read the DA’s report I posted in #27.


38 posted on 12/17/2015 3:37:33 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: Moonman62

So I can unintentionally shoot someone in California and not be criminally charged? Because that’s what this DA is saying.

L


39 posted on 12/17/2015 3:50:25 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Dalberg-Acton
In Texas, I believe the typical sentence for vehicular manslaughter involving DWI is about 20 years.

From the Internet: Manslaughter is an unlawful killing that doesn't involve malice aforethought—intent to seriously harm or kill, or extreme, reckless disregard for life. The absence of malice aforethought means that manslaughter involves less moral blame than either first or second degree murder.

Twenty years sounds about right.

40 posted on 12/17/2015 4:14:19 PM PST by cloudmountain
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