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The people that so many of us don’t consider people (Down Syndrome)
NY Post ^ | 12/14/15 | Bethany Mandel

Posted on 12/15/2015 6:54:13 AM PST by wagglebee

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To: Blue Collar Christian
Moonraker


41 posted on 12/15/2015 8:40:01 AM PST by Neidermeyer ("Our courts should not be collection agencies for crooks." � John Waihee, Governor of Hawaii, 1)
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To: wagglebee

With the stuff we went through two years ago, I understand the fear that a baby with severe risks will bring.

We were told we would lose Little Bear, then that she would be severely malformed. Many told me why my bride was on bed rest that “You should just try again”.

Our Doctor didn’t. Wonderful woman. Little Bear was born and air lifted to the NICU. She had breathing issues, but none of the life changing stuff we were warned about.

It doesn’t always happen that way, but if we had listened to the wrong doctor Little Bear would not be here.


42 posted on 12/15/2015 8:50:50 AM PST by redgolum
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To: Blue Collar Christian
If there actually was a homosexual gene,(for those claiming to be born that way), I would be against abortion of that potential queer. If there was a maniacal tyrant or murderer gene(like Hitler, Stalin, Jeffery Dahmer, etc.) I would be against the abortion of the potential killer.

There is no "homosexual gene," nor is there a "murderer gene." What there seems to be are genes that predispose people to become homosexuals or psychopaths. Not all people with this genetic predisposition become homosexuals or psychopaths, and not all psychopaths become violent criminals (many become successful and upwardly mobile if ruthless professionals - Steve Jobs had all the hallmarks of a sociopath/psychopath).

43 posted on 12/15/2015 8:51:10 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: ManHunter
And as to imposing our beliefs, we, as a society, have a responsibility to determine what’s right and what’s wrong.

The legal and moral implications of this issue go beyond abortion. One question that never seems to be discussed is who is ultimately responsible for providing for adults with Down syndrome and other mental disabilities. Their parents are not legally bound to do so after age 18, so if they're not wanted and supported by family, they're left to become wards of the state.

44 posted on 12/15/2015 8:54:11 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: BykrBayb

My great Uncle Paul had a stroke in the 70’s, and died in the 1990’s.

He couldn’t move his legs, and spoke with a moan most of the time. My great aunt, a rather fiery woman, cared for her till the day he died. Paul had a good quality of life. One memory I had was sitting up with him and watching all star wrestling while my aunt was out at card club. He was a big Andre the Giant fan. We would eat popcorn and drink pop till she got home, and then she would yell at him for letting me “sugar up!”

I can’t think of my Aunt doing anything else, and Paul was a big part of the family.


45 posted on 12/15/2015 8:54:18 AM PST by redgolum
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To: MNDude
Same reason that a bully picks on the weakest kid in the class.

Same mentality, some people grow out of it, some people embrace and revile in it.

46 posted on 12/15/2015 8:54:25 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: wagglebee
You consider it praiseworthy for parents to NOT kill their children?

Actually yes.

It is part of what makes us human that we would care for our offspring so long and with such loving care when to get rid of them is the animal way.

An animal in the wild will abandon a litter that did not come out right.

They will feed themselves first and leave what is left for the young.

Being human and not acting like an animal when animal is so much easier is praiseworthy.

47 posted on 12/15/2015 9:01:34 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: wagglebee

Some of the sweetest and kindest people I have ever met had Down’s Syndrome.

There was a group home for them in California, and we just happened to do our
grocery on the same day. The people would chat with me and help me with my stuff.
I enjoyed complimenting them and smiling at them because it made them so happy.

Since we moved to another state, I have met more Down’s people. Also in the
grocery store, where I met a sweet man who was a box boy. He really did a great
job bagging the grocery, and nothing was ever missing, broken, or bagged poorly.

He was laid off a few months ago, and I really miss him. Sweet man.

A life is a life, and even a Down’s person can make a life for him or herself.

Aborting them is just as much murder as any other murder. They are very lovable.


48 posted on 12/15/2015 9:04:56 AM PST by TheOldLady (I miss the Gipper. Wish we still had someone like him. ~~~ Trump and Cruz!)
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To: wagglebee

I have written before on FR that there is a Down Syndrome man who lives in my neighborhood. He works at the local grocery store; and, has worked at that same store for decades. He uses a bicycle to get to and from work, he is friendly with co-workers and customers, he loves sports. His mother is elderly, and he is a help to her.


49 posted on 12/15/2015 10:25:18 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: wagglebee

Roger Moore was the worst Bond ever.


50 posted on 12/15/2015 12:01:44 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: trisham
I liked him okay in "Live and Let Die" and "The Man with the Golden Gun." I never cared for Timothy Dalton, and it was obvious that Pierce Brosnan was brought in to try to be the new Moore.

I was skeptical of Daniel Craig, but I think he's almost as good as Sean Connery.

51 posted on 12/15/2015 12:26:57 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

I like Craig more than Connery. Connery was never as much of an action Bond, and there was never that sense in his movies that he was going to lose to the evil villains. I’m sure that it had nothing to do with him, but rather with the times, as well as with the technology.

What makes the two of them head and shoulders above the others is that element of underlying violence, with a thin veneer of sophistication. You know that Bond is on the right side, but what he might do to complete his mission is never certain.


52 posted on 12/15/2015 2:06:58 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ek_hornbeck

I believe we’re on the same page.


53 posted on 12/16/2015 4:42:22 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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