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Rush Limbaugh: Trump's un-conservative attack on Ted Cruz raised a red flag for me
Hot Air.com ^ | December 14, 2015 | ALLAHPUNDIT

Posted on 12/14/2015 3:41:18 PM PST by Kaslin

Via MFP, six months after the birth of Trumpmania, this is what finally raised a red flag? Trump arguing that Cruz is a bit of a “maniac” for taking on the entire Senate when it might pose a problem for a president who’ll need friends in Congress to help him pass his agenda?

Guy Benson wrote this last week about Trump’s many admirers in conservative talk radio:

Here’s how the coy game has worked: When Trump is right, they praise him. Fine. When Trump is factually wrong, while making an argument that may contain a “larger truth,” they justify his inaccuracies. When Trump lies, they deflect and excuse. And when Trump does something indefensible, they side-step the substance, resorting to marveling at how masterful he is at “driving a narrative,” playing the media, and aggravating all the ‘right’ people. Sure, he may be a sloppy, impulsive, non-conservative ignoramus on actual policy, but at least “he fights” in a manner that gratifies our audience’s political id; plus, “without him, we wouldn’t even be talking about [fill in the blank]!” There’s never an explicit endorsement, mind you, just loads of adulation. And airtime.

A nice description of how things have worked so far, but not today. Rush could have left it at calling Trump’s attack a “huge mistake” but he goes so far here as to say that if you think Trump’s a “genuine conservative,” which apparently some people do, this should probably cure you of that notion.

Often on Twitter lately you’ll find righties urging Cruz to hit Trump for being an egregious RINO and nearly as often you’ll find Cruz fans responding with, “You’d like that, wouldn’t you? A Trump/Cruz fight would be quite a boost for your boy Rubio.” Cruz himself alluded to that on Friday when he said “the establishment” wants a cage match between him and Trump. Some do, sure, and as soon as Cruz is finished with taking down Trump, they’ll turn on Cruz as also unacceptably “extreme” and start pushing Rubio. But some Trump critics want Cruz to engage, I think, because they believe that’s the only way to get conservative opinion-makers to finally start targeting Trump, which might loosen his hold on some of the tea partiers who prefer him (for the moment). It’s not about boosting Rubio, it’s just about finishing Trump. He could finish himself off and “prove” he’s a RINO by attacking a true-conservative sacred cow, but there’s no reason to think he will at this point. Trump’s been pretty savvy about passing the right’s major litmus tests: He’ll cross them on a boutique issue like eminent domain but on cultural meat-and-potatoes subjects like abortion, guns, and Christianity (the Bible’s the only book ever written that’s better than his own, you know), he toes the line. He’s not going to go out there and say that Ronald Reagan was a terrible president. He has a decent enough sense of what’s disqualifying in the primary and what isn’t.

The other way to “prove” he’s a RINO is to have him go to war with a populist conservative hero. The problem is that Trump himself is now a populist hero for some conservatives, which means other heroes like Rush are risking RINO accusations if they take him on. (“How much is the establishment paying you to attack Donald?”) That’s how you end up with the phenomenon Benson wrote about, where Rush is out there day after day praising Trump while taking care never to endorse him or to claim that the Trump policy du jour is a good “conservative” plan. If Trump attacks Rush or Sarah Palin or some other talk radio star, he risks losing some conservative cred. If Rush attacks Trump, he risks losing some populist cred. Everyone benefits from playing nice. The crucial exception is Ted Cruz, who’s competing with Trump for the same job and can’t avoid a conflict with him. Cruz is holding off because he understands the point about losing populist cred by questioning Trump’s conservatism and thinks he can win Iowa without attacking. Trump, who’s now behind there and who sees Cruz creeping up in other polls, either feels he can’t wait any longer to attack or he thinks that he’ll pay no price for doing so. Today’s jab is Rush’s polite way, I assume, of urging him to rethink that. Populist opinion-makers will stay out of Trump’s way so long as he’s not attacking conservatism or its leading avatars. Once he forces them to choose, they’ll choose and he won’t like the choice. After years of Bushes and McCain and Romneys, they’re not going to knife a brilliant ideological conservative with a real chance at the nomination like Ted Cruz just because some listeners are jazzed about Trump’s temporary ban on Muslims.

In fact, the audio only gives you a taste of what Rush said about Trump today. He objected to the “maniac” attack on Cruz because it was an establishment argument, but he objected to what Trump said about ethanol and affirmative action on more traditional grounds:

And then he dumped on Cruz for being opposed to ethanol? In other words, we as Republicans must support government subsidies to corn farmers in Iowa if we’re to have any chance of winning Iowa? We’ve gotta stand for subsidies? And that, again, is not a conservative position. To go after Cruz on that basis, is again the way the Democrats and the media would go after him, and then there was this Sunday morning on CNN’s State of the Union, Jake Tapper.

“What do you think of Justice Scalia’s remarks, and where are you today on affirmative action?”

TRUMP: I thought it was very tough to the African-American community, actually. I don’t like what he said. I actually saw it in print, and I’m going… I read a lot of stuff. I’m going, “Whoa.” I have great African-American friendships. I have just amazing relationships. But, yeah, I was very surprised at Scalia’s statements, actually.

RUSH: Well, they weren’t “Scalia’s statements.” They were arguments that had been submitted to the court that he was engaging in oral argument over. But these are two things that… If you’re a conservative voter in the Republican primary, these two things have gotta raise some red flags for you people, I would think.

That’s not a formal endorsement of Cruz over Trump but it’s clear which of the two a good conservative should prefer. (Should a good conservative also prefer Rubio to Trump?) Presumably more of this is in store for Trump if he continues to attack, including/especially at the debate tomorrow night. That raises the price for him. Is attacking still worth doing now with Iowa nearly two months away?

Rush Limbaugh: Trump made "huge mistake" attacking Ted Cruz


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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: Georgia Girl 2

My problem with Rush is he has turned Trump’s criticism of Cruz into Trump saying “I will reach out to Democrats.”

I think a closer summation would be “Cruz couldn’t accomplish anything with opposition of his own making: I can.”


42 posted on 12/14/2015 5:25:03 PM PST by papertyger (-/\/\/\-)
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To: Kaslin

There were numerous red flags already, Rush - you are a bit late to the party. Trump has been a liberal from day one - obvious to anyone paying attention.


43 posted on 12/14/2015 5:25:26 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run

You have no idea if Cruz can win. He’s a far better candidate than liberal Donald Trump and, unlike Trump, he is conservative.


44 posted on 12/14/2015 5:26:54 PM PST by South40 (Ted Cruz = the only conservative in the race)
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To: South40

Wouldn’t be the first time.


45 posted on 12/14/2015 5:27:02 PM PST by redfreedom (Voting for the lesser of two evils is still voting for evil.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Indeed, calling someone a maniac and unqualified to be president and lacking the temperament to be President isn’t an attack - just powder puff stuff.

You’re the one arguing Trump’s position on Planned Parenthood was correct because he would “defund the abortion part.” You continue to grasp at straws. Stop defending this ultra-liberal candidate.


46 posted on 12/14/2015 5:28:11 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Kaslin

Trump’s Thomas comments were idiotic and totally left wing BS. Trump is a non person to me. He does not get that the Supreme Court runs this county on major policy issues. He does not get that all justices should be just like Thomas.


47 posted on 12/14/2015 5:29:12 PM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: erod

Lecturing “You conservatives” that we’ll “just have to get used to it!” when it comes to the Federal government “taking care of everyone” also isn’t a good strategy if you are running as a conservative, either.


48 posted on 12/14/2015 5:29:30 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey

Well, now I’m the idiot. I meant Scalia’s comments, not Thomas. Doh!


49 posted on 12/14/2015 5:31:13 PM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Republican Wildcat

“Stop defending this ultra-liberal candidate.”

Buy a clue then get back in the discourse (that means discussion) in a rational way. :-)


51 posted on 12/14/2015 5:31:39 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Captain Jack Aubrey
Trump is a non person to me. He does not get that the Supreme Court runs this county on major policy issues. He does not get that all justices should be just like Thomas.

Conservatives Rehnquist, Thomas and Scalia were all against the Kelo decision. Liberals on the court supported it, as did liberal Donald Trump "100%".

52 posted on 12/14/2015 5:31:39 PM PST by South40 (Ted Cruz = the only conservative in the race)
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To: Kaslin

The blow-back from Trump attacking Rush would be ginormous. Definitely a popcorn event.
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53 posted on 12/14/2015 5:33:21 PM PST by Rebelbase
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To: papertyger

Yes I agree. Cruz has been doing his hitting at Donald behind closed doors in meetings so yin for yang. They are both big boys and should be able to jib and jab a little without Rush and Levin having a hissy fit over it.


54 posted on 12/14/2015 5:33:48 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: GOPe Means Bend Over Spell Run

Donald is the superior candidate in my mind.

That is clear. American jobs is very high on my priority list, and thus far Donald Trump is the only one saying that.


55 posted on 12/14/2015 5:34:16 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html)
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To: Kaslin
I heard the first half hour of Rush today and I thought he was babying Cruz and trying to shield him from the very thing that toughens contenders so they can weather their political campaign. I donate to Cruz, support Trump, and listen to Rush. To the degree possible, I hope Trump and Cruz fight the democrats and not each other. I think Trump can survive both the media, democrats, and GOPe assaults against him and win the general election. He needs all the help he can get from those who are fighting for America's continued existence as we have known it. Cruz would be an invaluable asset in his administration. If this whole tit for tat thing is just strategizing for mutual gain, it is not playing too well.
56 posted on 12/14/2015 5:38:47 PM PST by mountainfolk ((The past is prologue))
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Well Rush spent a good deal of hour three saying he was not dumping on TRump
He was probably read the riot act in his E-mails or got a call from Trump cancelling Rush's memberhip(s) and then got his facts straight.
58 posted on 12/14/2015 5:56:37 PM PST by lewislynn ( You know you're a Muslim if everything offends you.)
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To: lewislynn

LOL! I’m guessing Rush was taking incoming today as bad as Trump did over immigration.


59 posted on 12/14/2015 6:02:13 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Calpublican
Can’t find it. Wonder how the Trump crew defends it.
Defends what you can't find?
60 posted on 12/14/2015 6:05:11 PM PST by lewislynn ( You know you're a Muslim if everything offends you.)
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