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Ted Cruz vs. Marco Rubio: Did Cruz Support Legalization of illegals?
Multiple | 12/13/2015 | GPH

Posted on 12/13/2015 4:52:24 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans

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1 posted on 12/13/2015 4:52:24 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

If Cruz actually makes it into the spotlight, it is going to be a bumpy ride for him. When people really start looking at his record and sources of financing, they will see it is actually the same as Rubio’s.


2 posted on 12/13/2015 4:55:55 PM PST by JoSixChip
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

What position do you hold on the Rubio team?


3 posted on 12/13/2015 4:55:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

What position do you hold on the Rubio team?


4 posted on 12/13/2015 4:55:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ. You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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Rubio sucks, and is probably as disingenuous about his immigration platform as Cruz.


5 posted on 12/13/2015 4:57:30 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Do you really want to lend your name to this kind of dishonest BS? Do you think Trump will, as well?


6 posted on 12/13/2015 4:58:43 PM PST by skeeter
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Nice workup. Thank you.

This is an article that I found a few days ago. LINK

If found it troubling.

Except for citizenship, it was McCain/Kennedy 2007 and the Gang of 8 plan. This is not something I've ever supported.

7 posted on 12/13/2015 4:59:47 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

All of them (except maybe Santorum) have used language to allow for exceptions. For Trump, it was “letting the ‘good’ ones back in”.


8 posted on 12/13/2015 5:01:00 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: skeeter

My post seven has an article in it that pretty much confirms at least part of what he is saying.


9 posted on 12/13/2015 5:01:29 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/427046/ted-cruz-marco-rubio-immigration-amnesty


10 posted on 12/13/2015 5:02:04 PM PST by skeeter
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Do you really want to lend your name to this kind of dishonest BS? Do you think Trump will, as well?

It's fully sourced. Where's the dishonesty?

11 posted on 12/13/2015 5:02:22 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Cruz has always been for legal status. Rubio wants to roll out alfombra roja.


12 posted on 12/13/2015 5:02:30 PM PST by moehoward
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To: DoughtyOne

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2900126/ted-cruz-the-presidential-candidate-who-wants-to-increase-the-h-1b-cap-by-500.html


13 posted on 12/13/2015 5:03:40 PM PST by sockmonkey (Of course I didn't read the article. After all, this is Free Republic.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

It was clear what Cruz intended at the time he offered his amendment. Unfortunately for those such as Rubio and yourself many of us remember the circumstances very clearly.


14 posted on 12/13/2015 5:03:46 PM PST by skeeter
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All of them (except maybe Santorum) have used language to allow for exceptions. For Trump, it was “letting the ‘good’ ones back in”.

Well, I don't really like that either, but at the same time, I recognize that they'll be returning through a legal process, and this position protects Trump from the sob stories of little illegal aliens on their way to become PhDs in Quantum Mechanics. However, note that you actually know what Trump's plan is, even if you do not think it is perfect.

Is Cruz up front with what he wants to do with the illegal aliens in this country?

15 posted on 12/13/2015 5:04:34 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

So all these Cruz hating MSM sources vs single conservative Breitbart.
Sounds like Trump opposition research.
Fine, politics ain’t beanbag so they say.

CRUZCONTROL2016


16 posted on 12/13/2015 5:04:42 PM PST by Happy Rain ("You might as well legalize sodomy as recognize the Bolsheviks." Winston Churchill 1919)
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To: Dr. Sivana

You touched on the key and didn’t even realize it.

You leave.
You get vetted.
You return, if...

That is different than walking down, filling out a few papers and becoming legal on the spot.

In addition what gang member is going to willfully go in and fill out paperwork IF THERE IS a vetting process internally?

Cruz’s plan has no process for making sure all are screened.

Many will remain just a they are today.

Under Trump’s plan, if you get arrested without papers, you are deported.

Under Cruz’s plan that person could be eligible for filling out a green card request and being made legal.

There really is a difference.


17 posted on 12/13/2015 5:05:58 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: skeeter
It was clear what Cruz intended at the time he offered his amendment.

Well, reading the actual text, it's clear it wasn't just a parliamentary trick. Note your key words: "at the time." What was Cruz's team telling people in March of this year, and also after that? Is Cruz clear in his denunciation of granting legal status?

The whole "it was an elaborate ruse!" argument fails if the ruse keeps going and going and going.

18 posted on 12/13/2015 5:06:22 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: skeeter

Please read the article I gave you a link to.

It was just two years ago, and frankly it’s not all that much different than what he is hawking today.


19 posted on 12/13/2015 5:07:48 PM PST by DoughtyOne (I support President Pre-elect Donald J. Trump. Karl Rove, the GOPe, and Leftist's worst nightmare.)
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To: Happy Rain
So all these Cruz hating MSM sources vs single conservative Breitbart.

Breitbart is funded by a Ted Cruz mega donor. You can't expect them to be wholly balanced in their coverage, and they haven't. They've aired the dirty laundry of every candidate except Cruz.

That said, it's irrelevant. Cruz's statements in and of themselves trump someone's opinion about those statements, no matter how authoritative or objective they pretend to be.

20 posted on 12/13/2015 5:08:14 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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