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Fox News Poll: Cruz,[28%] Trump [26%] ahead in Iowa, Clinton holds caucus lead
Fox ^ | December 13, 2015 | Dana Blanton

Posted on 12/13/2015 5:33:04 AM PST by GonzoII

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To: GonzoII

I win either way!! Either would be such an improvement over our last 2 candidates and incomparably better than our current empty suit potus. .


41 posted on 12/13/2015 6:21:51 AM PST by arkfreepdom
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To: usafa92

There’s no shame in taking the lead from Deace, King or Vander Plaats. These are strong, staunch conservatives who have earned trust among their listeners and supporters. If you’re someone who’s not a political junkie, doesn’t know who is a plausible candidate and who isn’t, you’d want to listen to those people. They did more than endorse, they offered fully detailed opinions and reasoning as to why they think those candidates are the best that could convince anybody.

Deace also has an incredible radio show that is as spot-on in its analysis of the rift between the establishment and the conservative grass-roots as any show including Mark Levin’s (Levin has called Deace a fantastic host on the air).


42 posted on 12/13/2015 6:22:22 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
SC setting up to be crucial, as is usually the case.


43 posted on 12/13/2015 6:22:33 AM PST by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: usafa92

I had forgotten Bush took the lead in August.

Here is the recap again.

Bush leads Iowa. Then Walker. Then Trump. Then Carson. Then Trump
again. And now Cruz.

Apparently Iowa voters don’t think for themselves and are TOLD who
to support in any given week, just as you mentioned.


44 posted on 12/13/2015 6:28:23 AM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: ripnbang

If Cruz is peaking too early, then it’ll be Rubio who benefits. Trumpus has already had his peak.

The reality is in the last caucus, all these power players waited until very late in the process to endorse, which is why Santorum just barely won and was a blip in the polls until that last week. I also think Deace endorsed Gingrich last time, while others endorsed Santorum, so it was split. This time the Iowa power players are trying to correct the mistakes they made last time. They know what they’re doing.

Also, keep in mind Romney only won because he carpet-bombed Newt with ads there. The establishment will have two targets to hit this time. And they have to know that even if they destroyed both, Carson might still benefit. So they are likely to simply write off Iowa entirely.


45 posted on 12/13/2015 6:29:46 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: catfish1957

The Trumpets will continue to deny the implosion.


If the reverse happens, will the Cruzettes ‘deny the implosion’? Just checking.


46 posted on 12/13/2015 6:30:58 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: usafa92

LOLOL!!


47 posted on 12/13/2015 6:33:09 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: NYRepublican72

They already have changed. Numerous times.

Bush lead Iowa in August. Then Walker. Then Trump. Then Carson.
Then Trump again. And now Cruz.

Yep. Things change often in Iowa.


48 posted on 12/13/2015 6:33:26 AM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: tennmountainman

Maybe it’s Trump supporters who don’t think for themselves and just do whatever Trump says. Including succumbing to the Jedi mind trick when he tells them “you don’t need to look at my not-so-conservative record on the issues.”


49 posted on 12/13/2015 6:35:55 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: NYRepublican72
That's not true.

That DMR polls are usually wrong until the day before the election n when they race to push out a more accurate after promoting there push polls result lies for months.

In 2012’ , DMR has Newt in the lead.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/03/news/la-pn-iowa-poll-20111203

Did Newt win ?...... So much for that gold standard spin.

Its more like the most Radical Left Wing Rag in the Midwest playing Operation chaos games which is what the left wing DMR is famous for.

50 posted on 12/13/2015 6:39:16 AM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force the)
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To: GonzoII

The Iowa caucus is no bellwether and is not a predictor of future primary success.


51 posted on 12/13/2015 6:40:53 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: JediJones

The fact is there have been 6 poll leaders in Iowa.
Iowans seem to have a difficult time deciding who to support
until they are told who to support, regardless of who the flavor of the
month candidate is.


52 posted on 12/13/2015 6:42:15 AM PST by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance)
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To: sitetest
Cruz vote's to give Iran nuclear weapons and 400 billion is very conservative ?....

Cruz selling us out to his wifes employer Goldman Sach and voting yes on cloture twice fir the Soros Tpp-Tpa treason treaty is conservative ?.

Cruz trying to increase H1 visas fir Cheap foreign labor for his billionaire owners is conservative too ? Cruz being owned by WSJ billionaire donors is conservative too ?..

I am tired if lying owned political hacks like Cruz

53 posted on 12/13/2015 6:47:25 AM PST by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force the)
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To: GonzoII; Cincinatus' Wife

Even though I side with Trump, it would awsome if Cruz wins this straw poll:


Trump attacks Ted Cruz for not supporting ethanol subsidies

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3371645/posts
While I support Trump, I really hate ethanol subsidies and MANDATES.

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Most importantly, it is a sham that artificially raises gas prices and strains the food supply ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3365989/posts

“...A 2008 study published in Science magazine found that corn-based ethanol increases greenhouse gas emissions instead of reducing them. A 2009 study concluded that plowing fields to grow corn for ethanol could release more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere than ethanol offsets...”

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Even Jay Leno hates it:

Jay Leno hates ethanol

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3266647/posts

There have been a lot of old-car fires lately ... Here’s one reason: The ethanol in modern gasoline”about 10 percent in many states—is so corrosive, it eats through either the fuel-pump diaphragm, old rubber fuel lines or a pot metal part, then leaks out on a hot engine¦ and ka-bloooooie!!! [snip]

Ethanol will absorb water from ambient air. In a modern vehicle, with a sealed fuel system, ethanol fuel has a harder time picking up water from the air. But in a vintage car, the water content of fuel can rise, causing corrosion and inhibiting combustion. [snip]

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Cruz denounces boost in ethanol during Q-C stop (Quad City, IA)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3366851/posts

“... it shouldn’t be Washington picking winners and losers ... corporate welfare ...”


54 posted on 12/13/2015 6:49:15 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The DNC 2012 Convention actually booed God three times)
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To: mac_truck

so you declaring victory in SC already? You wanna spot me 21 points and put a few thousand on it?

I didn’t think so.


55 posted on 12/13/2015 6:54:35 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: GonzoII

Another fake poll. The anti-Trump conspiracy widens...


56 posted on 12/13/2015 6:55:21 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: ncalburt
Cruz vote's to give Iran nuclear weapons and 400 billion is very conservative ?....

No, your ability to follow and understand issues is retarded.

57 posted on 12/13/2015 6:55:52 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: GonzoII

(Trump supporter here) There is no reason not to believe the polls, even though they may be wrong, especially when more data points validate the findings statistically. Sure, Selzer has a great reputation in Iowa, and her poll should be listened to even when it purports a result different from the others, but she has gotten races wrong before, and I tend to believe it is less reliable before election day in any event.

Anyway, right now, the combined recent polls suggest a statistically tied race between Cruz and Trump in Iowa. Arguably, the initial Cruz surge in Iowa occurred before Thanksgiving, and it is possible a further surge is occurring right now, both in Iowa and nationally.

For Cruz to win, he was probably always going to need to win Iowa to get the nomination (same goes for Carson) because he has almost no chance of winning in NH given his coalition. Similarly, Trump probably needs to win NH, but that goes for a whole host of other candidates (which is part of the problem for those candidates).

Personally, I’ve never seen how Trump gets more than 25% in Iowa without changing the turnout model because the state’s electorate should not be favorable to him (as opposed to NH or especially SC). That being said, he has certainly retained his support in Iowa for many months, which is at least 20%. This suggests they are unlikely to move away from him in the future. It also means, given the number of candidates, a likely 2nd place finish at worst.

One last thing: the Cruz coalition is different than the Carson coalition, even though there is overlap. I would not make the assumption that the remaining Carson voters will naturally go to Cruz should they leave him. Carson is also close, IMO, to being a dead duck (I would have argued that he had no chance in the beginning, unlike Cruz), but he is not dead yet, especially in Iowa.


58 posted on 12/13/2015 6:57:28 AM PST by Sam Spade
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To: GonzoII
The biggest accuracy of the recent polls is to point out that Trump still has high numbers of broad-based appeal and that Cruz is methodically building his game with good effect.

Those that have preferences need to consider getting off the pot and starting to ante up if they want to have some say in the deal instead of spewing a lot of words while other operate the controls...

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59 posted on 12/13/2015 6:57:48 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: ncalburt

Most of what you wrote is an outright lie unworthy of further response. The rest is twisted half-truths that shows you are a troll who is to be ignored.


60 posted on 12/13/2015 6:59:11 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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