Male U.S. Commandos Don’t Want Women in Special Ops Jobs

Time ^ | December 10,2015 | Lolita C. Baldor

[Hojczyk]

(WASHINGTON) — The men in the U.S. military’s most dangerous jobs care little about political correctness or gender equality. And they have a message for their political leadership.

When they are fighting in the shadows or bleeding on the battlefield, women have no place on their teams.

In blunt and, at times, profanity-laced answers to a voluntary survey conducted by the Rand Corp., more than 7,600 of America’s special operations forces spoke with nearly one voice. Allowing women to serve in Navy SEAL, Army Delta or other commando units could hurt their effectiveness and lower the standards, and it may drive men away from the dangerous posts.

An overwhelming majority of those who agreed to respond to the RAND survey said they believe women don’t have the physical strength or mental toughness to do the grueling jobs.

Some of the broader conclusions of the survey, taken from May through July 2014, were disclosed by The Associated Press earlier this year, but the detailed results and comments written by respondents had not been released.

“I weigh 225 pounds, and 280 pounds in full kit, as did most of the members of my ODA (a 12-man Army Green Beret unit),” one respondent said. “I expect every person on my team to be able to drag any member of my team out of a firefight. A 130 pound female could not do it, I don’t care how much time she spends in the gym. Do we expect wounded men to bleed out because a female soldier could not drag him to cover?”

[Salman]

The whole concept of “combat effectiveness” assumes the idea is to win wars. It means nothing when the grand strategy is to get political advantage by keeping the war going indefinitely.

[dfwgator]

Liberals see the military as the biggest government social program there is.

[alpo]

Yes, that’s the easy word, but I am thinking about the captured, Lebanese pilot who was set on fire in a cage, the fire put out and a load of broken, concrete blocks were dropped on him.

Any serviceman’s death is tragic, but those folks use the means of death to demoralize the living. As taught by mohamd

[Shadowstrike]

first off, don't tell me what I know, thought police don't exist just yet.

Secondly (biologically or physically) I have seen women of my acquaintance stay out in the field (granted it was “mock” wargames) who were there a hell of alot longer than this (alright I'm OLD) devil dog.

What once was a Fact, has in some cases been proven Fiction. I don't judge all men that I've served with the same, and I sure as hell don't judge all women the same. Sand, guts, fortitude aren't always about what's between your legs.