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Hajj stampede killed three times Saudi Arabia's official number, says report
The Telegraph ^ | 12/10/2015 | Agency

Posted on 12/11/2015 7:12:08 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

The September Hajj stampede killed at least 2,411 pilgrims, a new count shows, making it the deadliest in the history of the annual pilgrimage

The September Hajj stampede killed at least 2,411 pilgrims, a new count shows, three times the number of deaths acknowledged by Saudi Arabia.

The figures establish the crush on September 24 as the deadliest in the history of the annual pilgrimage.

Saudi's official death toll of 769 people has not changed since September 26, and officials have yet to address the discrepancy.

The kingdom rebuffed criticism from its regional rival Iran and efforts by other countries to join a probe into the deaths.

Saudi's King Salman ordered an investigation into the tragedy almost immediately, yet few details have been made public since and hundreds of pilgrims remain missing.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: goodnews; haha; hajj; hajjstampede; ilaughed
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To: Dilbert San Diego
See my post #16. If you dig into the details of the previous stampedes, most of the victims are those lower down in the hierarchy of Islam supremacy.
21 posted on 12/11/2015 7:31:03 AM PST by Vigilanteman (ObaMao: Fake America, Fake Messiah, Fake Black man. How many fakes can you fit into one Zer0?)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

“”If I was in the CIA, I’d be looking for ways to increase these numbers.””

I think it could be labeled “a good start.” Why are there so many people dressed like Hindus or Buddhists in the video? Have they converted to islam?


22 posted on 12/11/2015 7:32:41 AM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

An upbeat article to start a Friday morning.


23 posted on 12/11/2015 7:36:47 AM PST by doug from upland (Some of you keep telling yourself -- Romney would have been as bad or worse.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
This was not the first time there have been stampedes and deaths at the Hajj. You have to wonder, what is up with that religion, or adherents of that religion, to cause deaths at an event which is supposed to be a profession of one’s deep faith in that religion???? Are there stampedes at the Vatican when the faithful visit? Stampedes in Jerusalem when visitors go to holy sites there???

You don't get 2m people simultaneously visiting at the Vatican. The stampede is the result of inadequate crowd control combined with an inherently difficult situation. NY's Times Square area has 1m people every New Year's Eve and no stampedes despite general inebriation because of 10,000 cops, crowd control barricades everywhere and crowd barriers called skyscrapers, whose glass doors could have been shattered to alleviate any crush. Whereas the Saudis had 2m people to deal with, but all out in the open.

24 posted on 12/11/2015 7:37:28 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

#MuslimLivesMatter?


25 posted on 12/11/2015 7:42:10 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Ready for Teddy, Cruz that is.)
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To: dfwgator

“You’d think they were trying ‘to decrease the surplus population”


26 posted on 12/11/2015 7:47:00 AM PST by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

2m people out in the open presents a very difficult crowd control problem. Scale up the Who concert numbers 100 times, and you have something in the ballpark of the Hajj casualties. Most of the deaths are from asphyxiation, not from being stepped on.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Who_concert_disaster
The Who concert disaster occurred on 3 December 1979 when British rock band the Who performed at Riverfront Coliseum in Cincinnati, Ohio, United States, and resulted in the deaths of eleven people.[1][2]

The Who were in the midst of the United States portion of their 1979 world tour and had already played Passaic, New Jersey, New York City, Detroit, and Pittsburgh before arriving in Cincinnati. The concert was a sellout, with 18,348 tickets sold. The majority of these, 14,770, were unassigned general admission tickets that were first-come, first-served.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Hall_stampede
The Victoria Hall disaster, in which 183 children died, occurred in Sunderland, England on 16 June 1883 at the Victoria Hall, which was a large concert hall on Toward Road facing onto Mowbray Park.

On 16 June 1883 a children’s variety show was presented by travelling entertainers Mr and Mrs Fay.[1][2]

At the end of the show an announcement was made that children with certain numbered tickets would be presented with a prize upon exit. At the same time entertainers began distributing gifts from the stage to the children in the stalls. Worried about missing out on the treats, many of the estimated 1,100 children in the gallery stampeded toward the staircase leading downstairs.[3] At the bottom of the staircase, the door had been opened inward and bolted in such a way as to leave a gap only wide enough for one child to pass at a time. It is believed this was to ensure orderly checking of tickets.[4] With few accompanying adults to maintain order, the children surged down the stairs toward the door. Those at the front became trapped, and were crushed to death by the weight of the crowd behind them.[2]


27 posted on 12/11/2015 7:49:47 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
No word on what started the stampede. Somebody probably yelled, "Hey look, its Mohammed!! FEMALE GOAT! "
28 posted on 12/11/2015 7:50:52 AM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“Are there stampedes at the Vatican when the faithful visit? “

Bart: Stampeding cattle.
Hedley Lamarr: That’s not much of a crime.
Bart: Through the Vatican?
Hedley Lamarr: [smiling.] Kinkyyyy. Sign here.


29 posted on 12/11/2015 7:52:48 AM PST by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: cripplecreek

3-5x per week is a good start.


30 posted on 12/11/2015 7:57:16 AM PST by Carriage Hill (0bummer: NO to Keystone Oil Pipeline, but YES to Mideast muslim Sewerline.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Interesting whacko conspiracy stories about this


31 posted on 12/11/2015 8:13:04 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: PGR88

I agree with you. After a while the stream of Moslem data seems like a sewage line running through the brain and the heart. Tedious primitives. Chimpanzees are better people. Seriously.


32 posted on 12/11/2015 8:16:41 AM PST by Psalm 144 (The mill grinds exceedingly fine.)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

When information first came out about the San Bernardino killer, it was mentioned that he had travelled to Saudi Arabia. But it was dismissed as no big deal, because he was merely going to the Hajj.

That’s a huge deal. Muslims are supposed to do this at least once...before they die. Of course he went to the Hajj before the onset of sudden jihad syndrome.


33 posted on 12/11/2015 8:20:52 AM PST by lacrew
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To: lacrew

Hajj stampede killed three times Saudi Arabia’s official number, says report

I call that a good start.


34 posted on 12/11/2015 8:26:51 AM PST by JayAr36 (How much more corruption will we willing to take from the Washington???????)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
"...If I was in the CIA, I'd be looking for ways to increase these numbers."

May I suggest strings of firecrackers, silicone oil, and banana peels?

35 posted on 12/11/2015 8:28:25 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I would like to the Hajj celebrated on a weekly basis.


36 posted on 12/11/2015 8:36:57 AM PST by monocle
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To: Thank You Rush

This is just a guess, but the Saudi hire people from India to do manual labor, be maids, etc. Wealthy Saudis may bring them along to keep the tent tidy for the Hajj.


37 posted on 12/11/2015 8:43:18 AM PST by lacrew
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Pagans enjoy a little human sacrifice to their idols. Trampling may not have the flair of cutting out hearts on an altar, but what it lacks in presentation, it makes up for in volume.


38 posted on 12/11/2015 8:50:38 AM PST by pallis
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To: DCBryan1

Oh no!!! Terrible visual but accurate.


39 posted on 12/11/2015 8:52:17 AM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Death before disco.)
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To: cripplecreek

lol :)


40 posted on 12/11/2015 8:53:25 AM PST by SC_Pete
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