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Is 0bama pursuing a "Ceasefire" in Syria? What does that mean? (vanity)
Obama Speech on San Bernardino & ISIS Full Text Transcript ^ | 12/08/15 | Zeneta

Posted on 12/08/2015 2:17:28 PM PST by Zeneta

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To: Zeneta

Putin and Assad are winning, Obama wants to save ISIS and Al Qaeda.


21 posted on 12/08/2015 2:42:36 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: Zeneta

It means that the Russkies are kickin his raghead jihadi buddies asses.
OH THE HUGE MANATEE.


22 posted on 12/08/2015 2:42:44 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

He is ‘pursuing the process’...which is bureaucrat speak to make it look like they are doing something when they are diddling around.


I get that and it’s not new.

Where is our media on this?

Our conservative pundits, at the very least?

At the same time, where are the leftist tools celebrating 0bama’s peacemaking skills?

I watched 0bama’s address and the ONLY new word that I heard was CEASEFIRE.


23 posted on 12/08/2015 2:43:47 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: skeeter

You’re right .. calling for a ceasefire says: “We give up”.

Consistent with the rest of Obama’s decisions .. he just caves to the enemy.


24 posted on 12/08/2015 2:44:34 PM PST by CyberAnt ("The fields are white unto Harvest")
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To: Boogieman

Of course, many of those rebel groups are allies of ISIS, so, as policy, it still doesn’t make any sense.


This is my point.

And nobody is asking them about this?


25 posted on 12/08/2015 2:47:38 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta
0bama’s statements are all whoppers. There are no ongoing negotiations to end the Syrian war, and there is no “American leadership” on the issue.

Shockingly, for 0bama, the US’s principal opponent in Syria is not ISIS, but the Assad regime. 0bama’s official policy is that Assad has to leave power before any negotiations can begin. Assad, the Russians and the Iranians think differently and Assad isn't going anywhere. 0bama wants some sort of settlement that would favor “moderate” Sunni jihadis. Besides being a pretty awful idea, it just ain't happening.

26 posted on 12/08/2015 2:51:14 PM PST by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: Hugin
Putin and Assad are winning, Obama wants to save ISIS and Al Qaeda.

Only thing that makes sense to me.

Obama wants "his boys" to have time to regroup and gain strength.

27 posted on 12/08/2015 2:51:47 PM PST by The Cajun (Ted Cruz, Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert....Nuff said.)
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To: Zeneta

Too many of his buds getting killed by the Ruskies and France.


28 posted on 12/08/2015 2:55:50 PM PST by NonValueAdded (In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act)
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To: Zeneta

He never reveals what he means, thus preserving the option to change his tune later on.


29 posted on 12/08/2015 2:59:12 PM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: NonValueAdded

Too many of his buds getting killed by the Ruskies and France


Agreed.

But I want someone to ask this administration WHO they are negotiating a ceasefire with?


30 posted on 12/08/2015 2:59:26 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta
Maybe he wants to cease fire because he is tired of slinging bombs at his buddies.

He wanted to oust Assad, but the American people would not go for it.

After Benghazi, there were serious questions about a series of governments destabilized in North Africa and the Middle East, to the obvious advantage of groups not aligned with American Interests.

People also noticed that while Assad will ruthlessly hold onto the reins of power, he was not murdering Christians, unlike the people who were taking over the destabilized governments.

The Egyptians threw Morsi out, despite his Muslim Brotherhood ties, because murdering Christians is bad for the tourist business.

The media have done a spectacular job of not reporting the salient points, likely to avoid presenting Hillary or Obama in a bad light and thus being denied access to the halls of power. Being there is an important status item for reporters, even to the point that they fail miserably in their jobs in order to retain that status.

Delivering an unbiased account of failure would cost them that status. Look at how Sharyl Atkisson (formerly CBS) was back-benched over Fast and Furious.

31 posted on 12/08/2015 3:09:09 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
100% agreed.

And all that said.

I want someone, anyone, to ask and demand this administration to answer a simple question.

"Who is this administration negotiating a ceasefire and political resolution with?"

And that is just the first question.

32 posted on 12/08/2015 3:19:55 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta
Lemme just add a couple more insights into "our" stance in the ME. One from the current SoS and one from the former.

From John Kerry, a couple of weeks ago: The U.S. is engaged in a "three-pronged strategy," Kerry insisted, to degrade and defeat ISIS as well as "stabilize the region" and then push for a diplomatic solution to push Assad from power.

The next morning in the newspaper: "But in a remarkable break with the administration, Mrs. Clinton declared publicly what White House officials have privately said for months: that the fight in Syria is no longer about ousting President Bashar al-Assad. "We need people to turn against the common enemy of ISIS," she said. In saying so, Mrs. Clinton seemed to align her strategic approach more closely with those of Russia and Iran, who are backing the Assad government, though she criticized both nations in her speech Thursday.

Hope that helps.

33 posted on 12/08/2015 3:23:04 PM PST by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: HandyDandy

Not sure if it helps.

But thanks.

Sunni vs. Shiite, and I’m not sure where 0bama stands.

Advancing war between the two seems clear to me.

Pulling the west into the war seems even more clear.

I gut says that he is more Shiite than Sunni.

At the end of the day I don’t think 0bama really cares about which version of Islam wins. As long as there is a war against the west and Christianity.

Recognizing the “Legitimacy” of either flavor of Islam and it’s place on the worlds stage is his goal.


34 posted on 12/08/2015 3:39:55 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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To: Zeneta

Sorry, I should have added a /f after “hope that helps”. Being facetious, that is. Three leaders heading in three different directions.


35 posted on 12/08/2015 3:45:51 PM PST by HandyDandy (Don't make up stuff. It just wastes everybody's time.)
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To: skeeter

Muzzies ask for ceasefires when they’re losing. Just ask the Israels.


36 posted on 12/08/2015 4:40:40 PM PST by BBell
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