Posted on 12/08/2015 1:39:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
I completely get the fury over political correctness. I completely understand that the aristocratic political, media, and academic establishment have been lying to us about Islam and the Muslim world for more than fourteen years. As I explain at length on the home page, it's simply not the case that Islam is a peaceful, tolerant faith plagued by a tiny few extremists. Rather, Islam has massive problem with hate and bigotry - with hundreds of millions of Muslims supporting the worst kinds of religious intolerance and tens of millions more outright terrorist sympathizers. In the refugee controversy, I've repeated over and over that it's foolish to admit a class of refugees when we know the world's leading terror army is attempting to infiltrate the displaced masses or recruit from their ranks. We can be compassionate without making ourselves vulnerable.
But the correct response to political correctness isn't to simply take the opposite position, to answer one form of unthinking ideology with another. By tacking to the opposite of Obama's scolding self-righteousness, Trump isn't charting his own course so much as merely reacting. In fact, now that he's "clarified" that he's not just talking about immigration but a moratorium on all Muslim entry to the United States, he's gone well beyond being the anti-Obama and has reacted straight into foolishness.
Off the top of their heads, even the most hawkish national security conservatives can identify multiple categories of Muslims who should have access to the United States, beginning - of course - with our own citizens. There are many others. What about the interpreters who've laid down their lives to serve our warriors downrange and now find themselves under imminent threat from jihadists? What about members of allied militaries who are training to be the Muslim "boots on the ground" that we need to help take the fight to the enemy? Do we treat the Kurds - who are sheltering so many of Iraq's Christians while also providing the most effective fighting force against ISIS - the same as we treat suspected terrorists? It makes no sense.
On the merits of Trump's proposal, I agree with Ben Shapiro:
Kiss Our Intelligence Apparatus Goodnight. We need to work with Muslims both foreign and domestic. It's one thing to label Islamic terrorism and radical Islam a problem. It's another to label all individual Muslims a problem. That's what this policy does. It's factually wrong and ethically incomprehensible. Donald Trump has just transformed into the strawman President Obama abused on Sunday night.
There is nothing wrong with closing our borders to select groups when confronted with actionable intelligence or to place some groups under greater scrutiny because of known threats. But to treat every single Muslim as a threat, regardless of whether they're from Raqqa, Erbil, Cairo, or Des Moines - and regardless of whether they've tweeted jihadist threats or bled on the battlefield alongside our troops - is to act mindlessly. I would also say Trump is acting maliciously, but I don't think Trump despises Muslims as much as he loves leading the news cycle. This is a political stunt and should be treated as such.
I often speak to audiences on college campuses and elsewhere about the proper response to PC nonsense. I call the formula "apathetic, informed conviction." When formulating cultural or political opinions, one must be completely apathetic to PC pressures - don't react against or capitulate to leftist browbeating. Instead, educate yourself and act through informed conviction. Respond to unreason with reason, to intimidation with a bored shrug, and speak truth even when the truth is unpleasant. In this instance, however, Donald Trump is the voice of attention-seeking reaction, not principled leadership.
This statement simply demonstrates how stupid you are and out of touch with what most conservatives believe and happily embrace.
You guys are on the losing side here. Your Trump derangement is more and more obvious.
“Donald Trump the Lonesome Rhodes of the 2016 Presidential Campaign.
The Slow Motion Campaign Implosion.”
You could not be more wrong.
Lonesome Rhodes in the film A Face in the Crowd was a destitute, uneducated, southern hobo, in trouble with the law, who was transformed into a viable political candidate by the media and public relations.
Donald Trump is an intelligent, accomplished businessman who speaks the truth to a corrupt media and political establishment and has been successful despite continual attempts by the media to tear him down and destroy him.
The media has predicted that Trump will implode over and over again. They have been wrong. Trump has continued to get stronger and become more popular.
what the heck do we care what the left says?.. get it?
paleeeese
I guess they need a punch in the mouth.
They wouldn’t do it on a dare and that’s what I think Trump is up to. Testing to see how far they can be pushed because it’ll show how much of what they claim to stand for is bullshit.
The Clintons attended Trump's 2005 wedding, and the mogul donated to Clinton's Senate campaign. So perhaps it's not surprising that he was more positive about Clinton in the not-too-distant past.
"Hillary Clinton I think is a terrific woman," he told Fox News' Greta Van Susteren in March of 2012. "I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York. She lives in New York. I really like her and her husband both a lot. I think she really works hard."
I think she really works hard and I think she does a good job. I like her," he added of the then-secretary of state. - Source
I guess more Americans are just going to have to die at the hands of Jihadis before America figures it out then. I wonder how many more will have to be sacrificed? Oh well. Have a nice morning.
That was Donald Trump the businessman in NY.
In order to succeed in business you need to keep politicians on your side. Trump made millions in New York where the political corruption is endemic and a real estate developer needs to keep the politicians happy.
I'm sure Trump said nice things about many politicians in NY.
In running for political office Trump is addressing the issues.
It has cost him money. Macy's and others refused to continue doing business with him. Univision backed out of a contract to air his Miss Universe beauty contest.
But through it all Trump has stuck to his principles.
Complete coverage will not be possible.
Complete coverage will not be necessary.
Even cutting the volume of this kind of traffic way down will give agencies like the CIA a better chance to check out who is still coming.
This is like asking Salem, okay you were wrong because from the historical record it now appears that there weren’t any witches, at least not among you. But what would you do if witches did appear.
No need to redefine it. Islam IS a political ideology. We should be as gung-ho about rooting it out and keeping it out as we were about communism.
You are aware that there is a whole post from Cruz people claiming that he had the idea first?
You said Trump “speaks the truth.”
Well, now he’s a politician as well as a businessman, so you think now he’s free to tell the truth? Because why? Because it’s in his nature?
What do you think he’ll do if elected?
The answer is this: You don’t know.
Your retarded.
Europe had unfettered Muslim immigration and the countries with the highest percentage are now succumbing to no-go-zones, riots, shariah, terror attacks, etc. Does anyone in their right mind think a country with 20% Muslims is as safe as one with 2%? Do you think there’d be any Constitution left at 66% Muslims? We’re going to watch Europe fall to the Muslims if they don’t take extreme measures to stop it. We can’t let the same thing happen here. And it ALL depends on keeping them OUT. Bringing in an antithetical, enemy ideology until those people are big enough in your population to have voting power is mass suicide.
"Your" (sic) not retarded.
He is absolutely right except for the moment we need a moratorium all immigration. Then let’s see where we are and revisit out total immigration policy. Like pre-1965 for example.
This thread is my tipping point I think. A minority... I will say 25% of Freepers are backing a reality TV star real eastate swindler who is not conservative, and could give a rat’s ass about the U.S. constitution unless it can be warped by the Supreme Court to suit his own financial agenda.
A throwdown is due... soon.
Britain no longer a Christian country, and it’s time to rid public life of Anglicanism, panel says.
A two-year commission, chaired by the former senior judge Baroness Butler-Sloss and involving leading religious leaders of all faiths, calls for public life to be systematically de-Christianized.
It says the decline of church-going and the rise of Islam and other beliefs mean a “new settlement†is needed for religion in the U.K., giving more official influence to non-religious voices and those of non-Christian faiths.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3369636/posts
But even the PC National Review won’t write the truth, that the problem with radical Moslems is Islam itself and that the violence and deadly intent are all through the Koran and there are nor radical Moslems insofar a Moslems who believe more profoundly in what their Prophet ordained. A Moslem believes or is apostate. The apostate is subject to being killed for his apostasy.Some are less eager to wage the violent jihad that the Koran requires all to participate in but none will oppose it except where politically advantageous for influencing the infidel to let down his guard.
The answer is this: You don't know. Make America Great Again!
It's the only plausible reason for him to bother running.
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