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The U.K. Will Attack ISIS With a Missile the U.S. Could Only Dream Of
Popular Mechanics ^ | 12/04/2015 | David Hambling

Posted on 12/07/2015 5:30:58 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki

​While the British Parliament was debating this week whether to join in airstrikes against ISIS in Syria, one weapon was mentioned repeatedly: Brimstone. In a 36-page report, Prime Minister David Cameron said, "The Brimstone missile which enables us to strike accurately with low collateral damage, therefore increasing the scope for strikes against specific ISIL targets—even the U.S. do not possess this capability."

Indeed, Brimstone proved itself and its capability against tanks in Libya, to the point that the British paper The Telegraph called it the "British missile envied by the U.S." But if the Brimstone really is so great, then why doesn't the US have it?

"LOW COLLATERAL DAMAGE" IS A RELATIVE CONCEPT.

Hellfire and Brimstone

The Brimstone is made by MBDA, a company formed by the merger of several European missile manufacturers in 2001, including the British Matra BAe Dynamics. The missile weighs 116 pounds. It is six feet long and greatly resembles the American Hellfire missile because, as the name might suggest, Brimstone is actually derived from the American weapon. Hellfire and Brimstone—clever, guys.

The story begins back in 1970 with the initial development of the Hellfire anti-tank missile. The previous US Army missile, the TOW, had to be guided by an operator keeping cross-hairs on the target. The HELicopter-Launched FIRE and forget missile—Hellfire, for short—would carry guidance systems that lock on to the target at launch. Unfortunately, the original TV camera-based seeker heads were not satisfactory, and so Hellfire ended up with laser guidance, meaning an operator has to keep a laser dot trained on the target throughout the missile's flight.

Hellfire is much-loved among American forces, but there was still demand for a true fire-and-forget missile that would find its own way to the target. Brimstone was originally little more than Hellfire with a new seeker, but during the design process the entire missile was rebuilt. Brimstone was based on a millimeter-wave radar, a short wavelength that provides a detailed picture of metal objects. It can identify, track, and lock on to vehicles autonomously. A jet can fly over a formation of enemy vehicles and release several Brimstones to find targets in a single pass. The operator sets a "kill box" for Brimstone, so it will only attack within a given area. In one demonstration, three missiles hit three target vehicles while ignoring nearby neutral vehicles outside the kill box.

This sort of capability might be handy in a WWIII situation against massed tanks, but it is less useful in current wars. Rules of engagement require a human operator in the loop and machines are not permitted to choose their own targets. So Brimstone was upgraded with a second seeker, and the dual-mode Brimstone has laser guidance like the Hellfire alongside the millimeter wave guidance. Either can be used as needed.

Whether Brimstone is any more accurate than Hellfire is a matter of debate. Brimstone can, however, be fired from fast jets, something that Hellfire is not designed for, against targets twelve miles away. It is also claimed to hit targets moving at up to 70 mph using the radar mode. Here it is against test targets at China Lake crossing at up to 50 mph.

As for the Brimstone's low collateral damage, this is a convenient side-effect of its being designed as an anti-tank missile. The shaped-charge warhead weighs only 14 pounds and is optimized to penetrate armor rather than throwing out shrapnel over a wide area.

When the Hellfire missile (which carries 20 pounds of explosive) was used in Iraq and Afghanistan, the original anti-tank version had limited effectiveness against some targets, so the U.S. designed new versions. The Hellfire K was more effective against personnel, while the M was built to go through a wall or roof before detonating to destroy a building. The latest version, the R or Romeo, combines anti-tank effects with shrapnel and enhanced blast.

Basically, Brimstone causes less collateral damage because it causes less damage. However, watching videos of Brimstone in action—destroying a vehicle in Iraq, a turret of an ISIS tank near Ramadi, or a compiltation of death and destruction—makes you appreciate that "low collateral damage" is a relative concept.

For Sale: One Missile, Gently Used

The Brimstone is hardly a war-winning silver bullet; a handful of RAF Tornadoes with these missles are unlikely to turn the tide in Syria. While the light weight means that a jet can carry 12 or more Brimstones on a single mission, the weapon costs more than $250,000 per missile. The Royal Air Force cannot spare a Brimstone for every terrorist in a Toyota.

Yet there's no doubt that Brimstone is useful weapon for attacking precision targets, which leaves us with the question of why the United States doesn't have them. There is already a millimeter-wave-guided version of the Hellfire for helicopters, and there have long been plans to replace Hellfire with something better, a missile with both laser and radar guidance, capable of being fired from fast jets, just like Brimstone. Unfortunately, the plans have been repeatedly curtailed to pay for other programs. Defense Industry Daily describes the project as having "enough missile program cancellations and resurrections to make even Lazarus give up."

The latest version, known as JAGM, should be here by 2019, with integration on the F-35 by 2021 or so. It may not be a surprise that MDBA is offering Brimstone as a contender for the JAGM program. David Cameron's new-found enthusiasm for the missile, and its use to support the U.S. effort in Syria, might just help their case.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: aerospace; brimstone; isis; raf
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1 posted on 12/07/2015 5:30:58 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

6 foot radius? Seriously?


2 posted on 12/07/2015 5:33:50 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Crazieman

6 foot radius? Seriously?

Not really.


3 posted on 12/07/2015 5:41:38 AM PST by billyboy15
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To: Crazieman
shaped-charge warhead weighs only 14 pounds and is optimized to penetrate armor rather than throwing out shrapnel over a wide area

Seriously.

4 posted on 12/07/2015 5:42:59 AM PST by AndyJackson
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5 posted on 12/07/2015 5:45:18 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

The 1000 lb blast area looks to be preferable.

“More rubble, less trouble”


6 posted on 12/07/2015 5:49:15 AM PST by wrench
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To: Crazieman

A ‘politically correct’ missile....David Cameron’s faux “Conservative” government came up with such a thing.

It may have practical use, but its purpose sadly is public relations illustrating the lack of resolve to destroy and defeat terrorism.

Politicians in the various nations are strutting their cock feathers in the face of terrorism and wan’t people to think their tough.

They also want people to think they are killing ‘humanely’.


7 posted on 12/07/2015 5:50:13 AM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“after discussion with troops on the ground”

Kind of limits it’s uses.


8 posted on 12/07/2015 5:51:23 AM PST by McGruff (I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction - Barack Obama)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“...low collateral damage..”

Wars will not be won when that is your primary concern.

Wars are won when the enemy loses either the capability or the will to go on. I do not see how this new way of fighting a war will be any different then Korea, or Viet Nam or the hundred or so other small conflicts around the world.

In the end, we will spend a lot of money, and a lot of blood and it will be our will that is broken, not the enemies.

Maybe that is the true goal of these limited wars.


9 posted on 12/07/2015 5:51:26 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I think it would be ironic if Hillary was arrested the day after she secures the nomination.)
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To: Nextrush

This sort of bullshit I feel like I could accomplish myself by targeting someone with a commercial-grade mortal shell firework. Kablooie!


10 posted on 12/07/2015 5:52:23 AM PST by Crazieman (Article V or National Divorce. The only solutions now.)
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To: Nextrush

The left is convinced it is possible to have a pushbutton war with zero causalities.


11 posted on 12/07/2015 5:53:14 AM PST by wrench
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Totally wrong concept. The West needs to stop sending expensive, pinpoint weapons to this arena. Cheap mass destruction is what is required. Carpet bombs. Diesel bombs. MOABS.


12 posted on 12/07/2015 6:00:21 AM PST by jdsteel (Give me freedom, not more government.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

500 pound bombs are a lot more cost-effective for the taxpayers. The military wants the latest, most expensive toys. They should be given functional, cheaper alternatives.


13 posted on 12/07/2015 6:03:00 AM PST by PAR35
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To: sukhoi-30mki

There was a story the other day about the US running low on smart bombs. They need to license barrel bomb technology from Syria.


14 posted on 12/07/2015 6:05:52 AM PST by PAR35
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“The Royal Air Force cannot spare a Brimstone for every terrorist in a Toyota.”

No worries as Obama will be instituting the all-new “Clash For ISIS Clunkers” next week in an effort to take those Toyotas off the road.


15 posted on 12/07/2015 6:07:36 AM PST by moovova
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To: PAR35

“There was a story the other day about the US running low on smart bombs.”

Production has been diverted to big Foreign Military Sales cases to Turkey and Saudi Arabia, announced in the last few weeks.


16 posted on 12/07/2015 6:11:07 AM PST by BeauBo
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To: wrench

Collateral damage at Dresden, Hiroshima and Nagasaki helped end WWII.

Just sayin’.

Oldplayer


17 posted on 12/07/2015 6:11:11 AM PST by oldplayer
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To: sukhoi-30mki
" The Royal Air Force cannot spare a Brimstone for every terrorist in a Toyota. "

I wouldn't know personally, but I hear that napalm is not expensive at all.

18 posted on 12/07/2015 6:19:40 AM PST by OKSooner (The 25th amendment, an idea whose time has come, and not a minute too soon.)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

Collateral Damage is the most asinine concept ever in military thought.

To your comment I would add that;

(This kind of war) is won when the general population among whom the enemy lives and breathes decides it is too dangerous to have anything to do with them. This will never happen unless THEY feel the pain.


19 posted on 12/07/2015 6:20:59 AM PST by bakeneko
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To: sukhoi-30mki

“The US could only dream of”, should read “Only the US could dream of”.

It is a US Hellfire missile, with the kind of millimeter wave sensor that has been used for US SADARM (Sense and Destroy Armor) submunitions for decades.


20 posted on 12/07/2015 6:25:03 AM PST by BeauBo
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