Posted on 12/06/2015 6:18:37 PM PST by Lorianne
I agree. The Russians have been entirely consistent with their historical goals. So predictable it is scary. This may be number 13 between the Turks and Russians. Only this time, western Europe may be neutralized.
“If you’re going to spam every thread with this stoopid disclaimer at least try to be accurate.”
There is nothing more provocative than one pro-Russian propagandist like you trying to cover for another pro-Russian propagandist. Contrary to your attempted deception, my comment, saying “Tyler Durden is a pseudonym used by an East European pro-Russian activist for Putin and Russia,” is wholly accurate. The pseudonym was adopted by Daniel Ivandjiiski, a Bulgarian, who is the owner and editor of Zero Hedge. The fact that the same pseudonym is used by additional editors working for Zero Hedge is incidental and in no way less accurate than the fact that Daniel Ivandjiiski is the owner and controller of such use of that pseudonym and all of the news stories appearing in Zero Hedge. The Bulgarian father of Daniel Ivandjiiski is reported to be the owner of a consulting and publishing business, Krassimir Ivandjiiski & Partners, known for its role as a Bulgarian agency for the Soviet Union’s intelligence services during the Cold War and Russia’s intelligence services in its current conflicts. Likewise, Daniel Ivandjiiski uses the Tyler Durden pseudonym as a cover for his Zero Hedge publication and its affiliated editors to continue the family tradition of supporting the interests of the Russian government and its campaigns of disinformation. It should also be noted that Daniel Ivandjiiski was disbarred by FINRA from working in the financial securities industry because of insider trading in violation of SEC rules. Regardless of how you try to coverup the role of Daniel Ivandjiiski by citing the usage of the same pseudonym by other editors working for Daniel Ivandjiiski, the fact remains Daniel Ivandjiiski is responsible for all such usage in his role as the owner and publisher of the Zero hedge publication responsible for controlling the usage of the pseudonym. Accordingly, I will remind readers of the deception by Daniel Ivandjiiski and his client, the Russian Government governed by the Putin regime, on every occasion in which the Tyler Durden pseudonym at Zero Hedge is used without the appropriate disclosure of a conflict of interest being properly disclosed. If you don’t like that bit of honesty and fresh air dispelling the covert Russian propaganda, suffer.
....And obamas best friend in the middle east is Erdogan. He was the first person obama met with on his first trip to the middle east.
“Only this time, Western Europe may be neutralized.”
It has been US policy since 1945 to provide for the defense of Western Europe, allowing the EU states to prosper economically without having to pay for the armed forces, nuclear umbrella, that protect them. Same with the Japanese, South Koreans, and Taiwanese vs China and Russia.
The problem is we hollowed out our economy in the 1990’s and early 2000’s by outsourcing our industrial infrastructure while expanding social services and admitting millions of unskilled third world immigrants into the country who are net consumers of those services. Hence we can no longer afford to fund and provide for the defense of nations around the planet. The Europeans, after 70 years of comfortable living, without the obligation of defending themselves, no longer have the will to sacrifice. In contrast it appears the Japanese are prepared to rearm, and provide for their own defense, once we finish releasing the leash we put on them after WWII. Regardless it is clear our hallowed out armed forces cannot fight a two front war and the industrial infrastructure does not exist at home to sustain a multi year non nuclear war in Europe against Russia while simultaneously fighting the Chinese in Asia and maintaining forces in the Middle East to protect the energy supply for Europe.
Consider that if Europe and the US engaged in a conventional war with Russia, the Russians would stop supplying Europe with energy. Russia would support Shia Iran sweeping across the Sunni Arab states to cut off Europe’s other source of energy. Will the comfortable 21st century Euopean citizens take endure years of freezing winters, starvation, and bloodshed or will they quickly surrender without the US umbilical cord. Will a US president use what remains of our aging nuclear capability knowing the official numbers say we are evenly matched in number of weapons but the Russians certainly have far more weapons than they report and China has an unknown quantity on top of that. Take out the US carrier groups with subs and cruise missiles, destroy the remaining operational military air bases in Europe and the Middle East, and the US ground forces are trapped in North America. Replacing the carrier fleet, if we could afford it, would take over a decade given our current manufacturing situation. Checkmate.
The next president will likely have no choice but to leave Europe to stand or fall to the Russians or the Islamists. Economically we are way overextended and the consequences the $20 trillion national debt from decades of government deficits, plus nearly a decade of irresponsible money printing by the Federal Reseve, are going to be felt. History has shown that debtor nations ultimately fall to vibrant countries with sound money policies or the barbaric hordes. We gave our industry to China for pennies on the dollar and we’ve been on a spending binge since. Actions have consequences.
Are you going to post a similar disclaimer about Henry Blodget each time a Business Insider article appears?
-btw Bulgaria is now a NATO country and the Soviet Union has been dead for almost three decades.
“Actions have consequences.”
Yes, and wars have consequences. One of the consequences of China embarking upon a hot war with the United States is the Federal Government’s seizure of all enemy Properties and financial assets to be held and managed by a government appointed trustee/s. Such assets seized from the enemy are used to settle any war debts arising from war damages. This incudes any and all U.S. Government Treasury notes and bonds.
“In other words you’ve got bupkis to support your paranoid delusions about Zero Hedge”
So, you are attempting to use a baseless ad hominem attack to deny Zero Hedge is a publication originating from the ownership of Daniel Ivandjiiski and his father, Krassimir Ivandjiiski.
Do you also deny the website was registered in the name of a business in Sofia, Bulgaria owned by Krassimir Ivandjiiski?
Do you deny Krassimir Ivandjiiski was in the service of the Soviet controlled government of Bulgaria and the Soviet-Russian operated Warsaw Pact?
Do you deny Krassimir Ivandjiiski is in the service of the present day Russian intelligence services?
“which has broken a number of important financial stories since its inception and is considered a ‘must read’ on Wall Street and the White House...”
It is perfectly understandable that agents in the service of the Soviet and Russian intelligence services are going to be provided with certain insider information to assist their activities in the financial markets necessary to maintain their covert cover and intelligence activities.
“that’s about par for the course for a statist sock puppet regurgitating the establishment line.”
In response, that is precisely the sort of ad hominem attack I would expect from a party who is attempting to suppress an investigation into the activities and identities of Soviet and Russian intelligence assets.
“Are you going to post a similar disclaimer about Henry Blodget each time a Business Insider article appears?”
No, because my time is limited. I’ll have to content myself with using the truth to annoy overtly pro-Russian apologists like you.
“-btw Bulgaria is now a NATO country and the Soviet Union has been dead for almost three decades.”
News flash, Dummy, the former Soviet intelligence agencies remained in existence, changed their names, and re-organized as usual, while remaining in service with the same cabal of officers controlling the Russian government from the shadows provide by its veil of secrecy. Vladimir Putin is a former KGB officer, and he brags about his association with the successor organizations he now commands in the present Russian government. The old criminal organizations remain very much alive and active in Russia in their latest evolved forms. Likewise, those Russian intelligence services continue to rely on whatever non-Russian intelligence assets found to be useful in the past, such as Krassimir Ivandjiiski in Bulgaria. The fact that Bulgaria is now a member nation of NATO does nothing to change the fact the Russians maintain intelligence assets in Bulgaria just as they continue to maintain intelligence assets inside the United States and all other member nations of NATO.
Your usage of ad hominem attacks in an effort to suppress this information about Zero Hedge and its owners only serves to increase readers’ reasonable suspicions your activity on FR is for the purpose of propagandizing for Putin’s Russian regime.
Lol...of course it is. Putin controls the weather too.
My advice would be to take your concerns about ZH directly to site management.
BOOM!!!
(rumble rumble rumble)
“Lol...of course it is. Putin controls the weather too.”
Do you mean for we, the readers, to construe your sarcastic “weather remark” to mean you do deny the previous question posed to you? Are we to understand you do not wish to answer those questions, so you try to brush us off with this sarcastic remark?
Why and where at? Haven’t you noticed they have made their domain registration private after they became the object of a lawsuit that formerly disclosed it as ABC Media, Ltd. at P.O. Box 814 Sofia, Bulgaria; which just so happened to be the same address as Krassimir Ivandjiiski, owner of Krassimir Ivandjiiski & Partners.
Why are you so determined to deny the relationship of Zero Hedge to Krassimir Ivandjiiski, who formerly served the Soviet Union and its intelligence agencies
It makes perfect sense that years of leading edge commentary on a corrupt banking system which caused the global financial crisis and routinely rigs and games the banking system is actually a massive covert Soviet disinformation campaign...rather than the collective work of dozens of savvy like minded Wall street and Washington insiders whose unvarnished insights are protected by the anonymity afforded by ZH under its Tyler Durden moniker.
Tell me more...
“Tell me more...”
Such as?
So, are you saying that if Erdogan’s son is involved in these activities, we should not talk about it?
I’m not sure what you are implying here.
“So, are you saying that if Erdogan’s son is involved in these activities, we should not talk about it?”
No, I am not. What I am saying is that you should not be accepting as a credible source and/or a foregone conclusion an allegation being promoted and disseminated by sources who have a past reputation for engaging in insider trading, litigation in securities fraud involving manipulating stock values through dissemination of false accusations of fraudulent financial reporting, and is owned by Bulgarians with a past history of serving such clients as the Soviet dominated governments, the Warsaw Pact, and their intelligence agencies with their disinformation campaigns and offensives against NATO.
“I’m not sure what you are implying here.”
I’m saying credible information from two or more independent sources is necessary before attempting to form any conclusions pro or con with respect to the allegations. Zero Hedge is far from being a credible source of information given its shady past in fraud related litigation and connection to the Soviet and Russian governments and their intelligence services, who have a motivation to concoct a false accusation/s. For example, it is still very murky and unknown exactly how the smuggled ISIS oil is being traded and documented to enable it to reach a Turkish port for transshipping. It is known the Iraqi Kurds have been using this route for some time to avoid Iraqi controls on such shipments. There are reports claiming the smugglers of the ISIS oil shipments are somehow using the Kurdish oil shipments as a cover for slipping the ISIS oil shipments through the Turkish border controls. Whether or not Erdogan and/or his son are involved is alleged, but correlation is not causation. It remains to be seen how those shipments actually get exported. In the meantime, it appears as though Erdogan or someone else in Turkey may or may not be facilitating the ISIS oil exports through Turkish territory. If Erdogan is implicated as alleged, Russia will benefit by the divisions such revelations may cause in the NATO Alliance and its defense posture with respect to the offensive campaigns of conquest being waged by utin and Russia. If Erdogan is not implicated as alleged, Russia will benefit by the divisions in the NATO Alliance such fraudulent accusations may cause in the NATO Alliance and its defense posture with respect to the offensive campaigns of conquest being waged by Putin and Russia. If the allegations are false, then Putin’s and Russia’s fraudulent accusations need to be regarded as another provocative attack of disinformation against the Western nations just as their false denials of the presence of Russian soldiers in the Crimes and the rest of the Ukraine were false and lies.
Who said I accepted it?
I post things I find that may be of interest. I try to post follow up articles that either corroborate or dismiss the information that I previously posted.
I take NO SOURCE as completely reliable. Never ever. I learned that lesson years ago.
Since there is NOT SINGLE SOURCE of information that is completely reliable, our choices are:
1. Curl up in a ball and not seek out any information about the world around us. Just watch the Kardashians and Dancing with the Stars
2. Go out and travel in the world and find out for oneself what is happening everywhere.
3. Just listen to one source, especially if it fits your worldview or political inclinations and stick to only that.
4.. Read from a WIDE VARIETY of sources and try to piece together from all of them what is likely happening in the world. If you find a topic or story that interests you, then try to find that same topic or story on several different sources.
Choice #4 takes time and a real interest to try to find out what is really going on. I daresay of the majority of people posting here (or on any site that I visit) I am in the extreme minority of people willing to investigate more sources and wiling to entertain more points of view.
I have been called on the carpet more times here than I care to recount over sources. They are either too this or too that ... heard it all before literally hundreds of times. I’ve heard “I won’t read anything” from this or that source .. again hundreds of times. Leading me to believe most people are in camp #3 above.
It is just too much damn work to look into things more deeply. It is easier to accuse people (who you don’t even know) of things you have no idea about, don’t know their history, their motivations etc. Why not just make it up? It’s easier!
On top of that Zero Hedge frequently has news stories that originated elsewhere that have been up for a week or more that cannot be posted here due to the many (and confusing) copyright rules. And/or they are on sites behind a paywall which many people cannot access.
“Who said I accepted it?”
I didn’t. I said anyone. Not everyone is aware of the shady background of Zero Hedge and its Bulgarian owners. There are many good reasons to be suspicious of criticisms published by Zero Hedge, regardless of where else those criticisms have been published. A common tactic of the Soviet-Russian intelligence services is to seed disinformation into multiple news sources and use each other and the blogosphere to create a false perception of independent and popular acceptance of the false allegations. That is precisely the kind of fraudulent activities which brought litigation against the Bulgarian owner of Zero Hedge and also brought about his disbarment by the SEC.
Bingo...well said Lorianne.
Speaking of which there is a fairly complete (albeit dated) synopsis of the whole ZH phenomena here if you're interested.
“Speaking of which there is a fairly complete (albeit dated) synopsis of the whole ZH phenomena here if you’re interested.”
Your claim the article is “fairly complete” is the exact opposite of the truth. It was published in 2009 and not long after Zero Hedge appeared. Since 2009 there has been considerably more disparaging information uncovered about Zero Hedge and its owners, especially litigation that identified the principals behind Zero Hedge and their connection to former Soviet era Bulgarian officials who are alleged to operate an organized crime group and an extensive extortion racket using their publications and a group of co-conspirators, often using pseudonyms or aliases to disseminate false and misleading information in efforts to extort payments of protection money. The allegations describe their role as a “fixer” for businesses who find they face problems whenever this group targets the business for their attention. It is interesting to observe and note how you are making these efforts to prop up Zero Hedge and its apparently sordid reputation for engaging in securities fraud and the extortion schemes described in:
https://web.archive.org/web/20130722221248/http://gross-law.com/dalrymple.pdf
Don’t quote me out of context Clymer, I clearly said the article was dated.
“Don’t quote me out of context Clymer, I clearly said the article was dated.”
You certainly were not quoted out of context, because the article was incomplete at all points in time: when it was first published, when you linked to it today, and at all time in between. You wrote that the article was “fairly complete,†which the litigation in 2011 and numerous other articles in the period 2009 to the present overwhelmingly refute. Nowhere in the article does it contain the information found elsewhere describing its roles and its relationships with persons and organizations engaged in security fraud, the Dalrymple case, Bulgarian organized crime, or the former “official” Bulgarian government under the Soviet Communist rule. Therefore the article can hardly be described as being fairly or remotely complete at any moment in time. It makes no difference when the article was dated. Your efforts to promote the reputation of this known securities fraudster and purveyor of pro-Russian disinformation further enhances the appearance of your being a frequent apologist for Putin, Russia, and their disinformation campaign.
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