Posted on 12/06/2015 6:18:37 PM PST by Lorianne
Russia's Sergey Lavrov is not one foreign minister known to mince his words. Just earlier today, 24 hours after a Russian plane was brought down by the country whose president three years ago said "a short-term border violation can never be a pretext for an attack", had this to say: "We have serious doubts this was an unintended incident and believe this is a planned provocation" by Turkey.
But even that was tame compared to what Lavrov said to his Turkish counterparty Mevlut Cavusoglu earlier today during a phone call between the two (Lavrov who was supposed to travel to Turkey has since canceled such plans).
As Sputnik transcribes, according to a press release from Russia’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Lavrov pointed out that, "by shooting down a Russian plane on a counter-terrorist mission of the Russian Aerospace Force in Syria, and one that did not violate Turkey’s airspace, the Turkish government has in effect sided with ISIS."
It was in this context when Lavrov added that "Turkey’s actions appear premeditated, planned, and undertaken with a specific objective."
(Excerpt) Read more at zerohedge.com ...
Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey’s President
In addition to son Bilal’s illegal and lucrative oil trading for ISIS, Sümeyye Erdogan, the daughter of the Turkish President apparently runs a secret hospital camp inside Turkey just over the Syrian border.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/211624-2/211624/
And we want in on this cluster____ ?
No thank you.
Sucks to be Lavrov (although it comes with the job), seeing that the Russian government admitted its jet violated Turkish airspace.
Tyler Durden is a pseudonym used by an East European pro-Russian activist for Putin and Russia. He is proposing that Erdogan, his son, and Turkey are supporting ISIS/ISIL, who has named the Turks and Turkey as apostates which ISI/ISIL must behead and kill as apostates. They have some’splainin to do to sell that contradiction.
This is being reported elsewhere. It is not original reporting by Zero Hedge.
But but but Obama said Turkey is our ally
bttt
Isis is mainly funded by the Saudis. This is to protect the royal family from over throw. That is why a member of the royal family was heavily financed — Bin Ladin!! They attacked our shores. Seize their oil and kill them.
Well, it’s true that ZeroHedge “reports” nothing original. It just puts the pro-Russian spin on it.
Ahhh, another poverty stricken young man seduced by ISIS... /s
Numerous contributing authors on ZH use the same pseudonym.
“This is being reported elsewhere. It is not original reporting by Zero Hedge.”
That does not change thee fact that whether or not Erdogan and/or Turkey are responsible for some improper activities, the former Soviet intelligence assets used by Putin and his Russian regime are actively engaged in using their agents, sympathizers, and Western media to disseminate disinformation calculated to divide and conquer Western public opinion and political actions. They are especially interested in distorting the news in an effort to divide NATO and capture effective control of the Dardanelles Strait between the Black Sea and the Mediterranean Sea. They would also like to find the means to neutralize the strength of the Turkish armed forces, especially the tank forces, which provide a threat to Russia’s future ground offensives into the Ukraine, Romania, Bulgaria, et al.
“Numerous contributing authors on ZH use the same pseudonym.”
Yes, but they are subject to the East European’s editorial decisions.
And this screed does not change the fact that Turkey is collaborating with the enemies of all civilized people.
The oil was there, seeping to the surface, since well before Mohammed, yet they never did anything with it. Only after westerners developed uses for it and the technology to efficiently extract it in massive amounts did western oil companies go to Saudi Arabia and develop the infrastructure to harvest what they'd considered a worthless, messy, nuisance. It was de facto our oil, paying the impoverished, primitive locals token fees until they essentially nationalized it then formed OPEC to cut themselves a MUCH bigger cut than the previously free market had granted, although they were then, and I suspect still are, incapable of maintaining the necessary infrastructure by themselves. Without the wealth that OPEC stole and without the terrorist training and seeding the USSR initially provided, Muslim terrorism would be a much smaller problem.
“And this screed does not change the fact that Turkey is collaborating with the enemies of all civilized people.”
Screed? Hardly. First, you are arguing that the Turks are knowingly helping the very people who have vowed to slaughter, behead and worse, the Turks for belonging to a sect of Islam ISIS claims are apostates. Second your assertion that such collaboration is a fact is certainly not a fact. The alleged collaboration is an accusation which may or may not have some justification. for example, the oil being smuggled by ISIS is known to be transferred into the Kurdish oil shipments coming out of Iraq before reaching the Turkish borders and the Turkish port. Anyone who wants to make the accusations stick needs to show the ISIS oil shipments are not being hidden within the Kurdish oil shipments. I haven’t seen credible reports of such shipping methods coming from non-Russian supportive sources. If you have, let’s see them.
Again, whether or not Turkey is engaged in such illicit activities, Russia’s intelligence assets are using disinformation to influence the media and public opinion in the Western world to divide us politically and militarily.
Most Turks are Sunni.
“Most Turks are Sunni.”
Yes, but they are not Salafi or Wahhabi like the characters who sacked Islam’s most sacred cities of Mecca and Medina to purify them as ISI/ISIL seek to purify Turkey and other domains claimed by their new restoration of the Caliphate.
Actually there are a number of people at Zero Hedge whose writing gets posted under the moniker of Tyler Durden.
If you're going to spam every thread with this stoopid disclaimer at least try to be accurate.
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