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To: expat_panama

For what it’s worth, I received this information this morning. I can’t vouch for the accuracy, but when IBD says we’re headed south, I’ll listen.

#1 On Tuesday, the price of oil closed below 40 dollars a barrel. Back in 2008, the price of oil crashed below 40 dollars a barrel just before the stock market collapsed, and now it has happened again.

#2 The price of copper has plunged all the way down to $2.04. The last time it was this low was just before the stock market crash of 2008.

#3 The Business Roundtable’s forecast for business investment in 2016 has dropped to the lowest level that we have seen since the last recession.

#4 Corporate debt defaults have risen to the highest level that we have seen since the last recession. This is a huge problem because corporate debt in the U.S. has approximately doubled since just before the last financial crisis.

#5 The Bloomberg U.S. economic surprise index is more negative right now than it was at any point during the last recession.

#6 Credit card data that was just released shows that holiday sales have gone negative for the first time since the last recession.

#7 As I mentioned yesterday, U.S. manufacturing is contracting at the fastest pace that we have seen since the last recession.

#8 The velocity of money in the United States has dropped to the lowest level ever recorded. Not even during the depths of the last recession was it ever this low.

#9 In 2008, commodity prices crashed just before the stock market did, and late last month the Bloomberg Commodity Index hit a 16 year low.

#10 In the past, stocks have tended to crash about 12-18 months after a peak in corporate profit margins. At this point, we are 15 months after the most recent peak.

#11 If you look back at 2008, you will see that junk bonds crashed horribly. Why this is important is because junk bonds started crashing before stocks did, and right now they have dropped to the lowest point that they have been since the last financial crisis.


42 posted on 12/03/2015 7:05:14 AM PST by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Mase
Whoa, thanks for the headsup.  One thing that caught my eye--  "..velocity of money in the United States has dropped to the lowest level ever recorded."  They may be talking about the Fed's number set w/ data going back to 1960, but this other set patched together vel. back to 1900 and we're now beginning to look more like 1929...
46 posted on 12/03/2015 7:47:16 AM PST by expat_panama
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In 2008, commodity prices crashed just before the stock market did, and late last month the Bloomberg Commodity Index hit a 16 year low.

I talked to a friend yesterday and he was telling me scrap metal prices have crashed from $250 a ton at it's peak to less than $50 a ton.

58 posted on 12/03/2015 9:25:19 AM PST by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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