[Starstruck]

Denise Speller, manager at a nearby haircut salon, said she heard roughly 10-20 gunshots in the span of less than five minutes. She said she saw a police cruiser and two officers outside near Chase Bank, not far from the Planned Parenthood facility. One of the officers appeared to fall to the ground and the other office knelt down to render aid, then tried to get the officer to safety behind the car, she said. Another officer told Speller to seek shelter inside the building.

Not inconsistent with a guy with a rifle outside of PP firing toward the police who arrived at the bank parking lot. But if it's easier to believe that every one involved is in cahoots with a cover up go ahead.

[ican'tbelieveit]

Yeah, he had to have a rifle. I know the one woman said shotgun. Possible he had more than one gun.

[UCANSEE2]

But if it's easier to believe that every one involved is in cahoots with a cover up go ahead.

First, it would be easier. Especially since many times, it's true.

Second, I'm trying to debate my opinion of what happened with others who have a different opinion. That is how one gets to the truth. You now are part of that discovery.

What do you see as this guy's motive for running into a PP clinic, but only shooting people out in the parking lot ?

Sure, he's a nutcase, but still nutcases have motives. What about reports that this all started 30 minutes before he arrived at the clinic ? What about reports he shot a cop before he ever went inside ?

Do you know how many different LEO organizations they had on scene ? How many fire trucks ? How long did it take to get all that there ?

What times do the police reports show as this actually starting and when do they report he entered the clinic ?

Why the gag order ?