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John McCain and Lindsey Graham call for 20,000 troops in Syria and Iraq
The Guardian ^ | 11/30/2015

Posted on 11/30/2015 7:51:46 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Two senior senators called on Sunday for Washington to nearly triple military force levels in Iraq to 10,000 and send an equal number of troops to Syria as part of a multinational ground force to counter Islamic State in both countries.

Republicans John McCain and Lindsey Graham criticised Barack Obama's incremental Islamic State strategy, which relies on airstrikes and modest support to local ground forces in Iraq and Syria, and said the need for greater US involvement was underlined by this month's Paris attacks.

"The only way you can destroy the caliphate is with a ground component,"said Graham, who is seeking his party's presidential nomination. "The aerial campaign is not turning the tide of battle."

McCain, chairman of the Senate armed services committee, recently proposed intervention in Syria by a European and Arab ground force backed by 10,000 US military advisers and trainers.

On Sunday, he and Graham told reporters during a visit to Baghdad that US personnel could provide logistical and intelligence support to a proposed 100,000-strong force from Sunni Arab countries like Egypt, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. Graham said special forces would also be included.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; lindsaygraham; mccain; syria; warmonger
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To: SeekAndFind

These guys are nuts...Putin has sent numerous ground troops in to destroy Obama’s Al Qaeda army...Now these nitwits want American troops in there to defend Al Qaeda and fight directly against Russian troops...


41 posted on 11/30/2015 9:51:27 AM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: PGR88
Can’t they see that Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Obama are complicit in the existence of ISIS?

Sure they do...They are just as complicit as Obama is...

42 posted on 11/30/2015 9:53:08 AM PST by Iscool (Izlam and radical Izlam are different the same way a wolf and a wolf in sheeps clothing are differen)
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To: SeekAndFind

This for sure will revive Linda’s campaign.


43 posted on 11/30/2015 10:01:29 AM PST by aquila48
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To: SeekAndFind

I have no problem with returning to Iraq and making it a safe area free from ISIA and AQ and maintaining troops there indefinitely, as we successfully did after WWII in Europe, Japan and South Korea. If Obama would just let the Military handle it, the job will be well done. But absolutely stay out of Syria. Congress must approve troops there anyway. Syria would be an American disaster waiting to happen.


44 posted on 11/30/2015 10:33:14 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: SeekAndFind; Tenacious 1; JEDI4S; Lorianne

I agree with all you folks. It looks like a circular firing squad to me with 20,000 of our troops standing in the middle. Here are two sources I have found to begin understanding this situation. Yes, I said begin.

Lament for a Vanished Middle East
http://www.israpundit.org/archives/63611170

Syrian Civil War Brilliantly Explained By This Five-Minute Vox Video
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/11/28/syrian-civil-war_n_8672068.html


45 posted on 11/30/2015 10:37:04 AM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Retain Mike

Very interesting ... from your first link:

... 10% of the French electorate is Sunni, and that 90% of those vote for the left.


46 posted on 11/30/2015 11:20:30 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: SeekAndFind

Peace On Earth ... Purity Of Essence ...

;)


47 posted on 11/30/2015 11:42:02 AM PST by Forgotten Amendments (Nessie ... Sasquatch ... The Free Syrian Army ...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Those to weasels can suit up and go personally scout out the situation for the next 5 yrs, and report back after that. IDIOTS!


48 posted on 11/30/2015 11:55:48 AM PST by Ms Mable
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To: ek_hornbeck
In the late 1990's, he fell under the wing of the neoconservatives, and has been parroting Bill Kristol's foreign policy talking points ever since.

I believe you might be giving Kristol more credit (or blame) than he deserves. And I wouldn't identify McCain as a "neocon"; instead, I'd contend he's just an ambitious "opportunist".

McCain was all in favor of a full-scale war in Somalia -- even before "Blackhawk Down" (1993). Further, he was all aflutter about intervening in the Bosnian War (1992-95).

It wasn't until the Kosovo War (1998-99) that Cristol seemed to gain his ear. But, as you can see, McVain was already a certified warmonger.

Then, there is the Soros influence. McPain's favorite charity is his very own Reform Institute -- a non-partisan, not-for-profit think tank ...and, since 2000, an extension of Senator John McCain's political ambitions. Soros funded it.

At bottom, McVain is Soros' man -- not Bill Kristol's. And when Soros wants conflict an chaos...Senator John Sidney McCain flies to the Middle East or North Africa or the Balkans...and helps foment it.

49 posted on 11/30/2015 3:25:02 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: .IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: SeekAndFind

He wants 20,000 to defeat ISIS and how many hundreds of thousands more for the ten-plus years of occupation that will follow?


50 posted on 11/30/2015 3:51:31 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm not convinced any of these people can tell who is "ISIS"... or the supposedly "moderate rebels".... or the Syrian Army, or Al Queda.... or Iraqi Military.... or the Kurds.... or Daish... or Taliban. I'm not sure any of them wear uniforms or name tags.... and I'd guess they jump from one organization to another about every 4 days....

We don't need troops over there. In fact, we need to pull every American out of there and then drop some really big bombs that get really hot.... for a while.

51 posted on 11/30/2015 3:57:04 PM PST by kjam22
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To: SeekAndFind

Absolutely not.


52 posted on 11/30/2015 4:04:20 PM PST by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

Never trust a liberal who’s all fired up for war. When the bill comes due they run for the hills, as both Clinton and Kerry did with respect to Iraq. “I was for it before I was against it.” Right.


53 posted on 11/30/2015 4:13:04 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: okie01

Don’t mind McCain, he’s becoming senile.


54 posted on 11/30/2015 6:50:10 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Retain Mike
A thread on that video you just posted.
55 posted on 11/30/2015 6:57:22 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: SeekAndFind

Well grab some rifles and lead the way.


56 posted on 11/30/2015 6:59:20 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: hal ogen

Use Meghan as a bunker buster.


57 posted on 11/30/2015 7:00:13 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: MinorityRepublican

Thanks. There were some great comments in there.


58 posted on 11/30/2015 7:05:03 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: MinorityRepublican
Don’t mind McCain, he’s becoming senile.

SOB called me a bigot. You, too, I suspect.

I'll never forgive the senile old fart.

59 posted on 11/30/2015 7:57:22 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: .IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: Retain Mike
I don't think Tom Clancy could think up some of the things that are happening real time in this world at the moment.

And that man had a heck of an imagination.

Notice the Western media damn near ignoring the massive bombing the Rooskies are doing lately. Nary a word or video.

Must make Buckwheat look bad so if we don't report it...no one will know. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-———

60 posted on 12/01/2015 5:51:46 AM PST by JEDI4S (I don't mean to cause trouble...it just happens naturally through the Force!)
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