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To: CottonBall; Liz

Thanks Cottonball. It was in August and there was a guest host for Michael Medved (so you could imagine where this is going).

He was interviewing SOMEONE, but I never got his name (I was driving home from work) - but he was kind of GOPe. He said exactly as you paraphrased - at the start of the Primary season all the probable candidates were simply told that if the wanted to see a dime of big money, they would abide by certain rules, with keeping quiet on immigration being the TOP RULE...as they were (conveniently) convinced by Frank Luntz’s (directed-result) polling that Romney’s throw-away debate line in Jan. 2012 regarding him pressing for policies to make Illegals self-deport cost him the election. Nothing else. They guy was genuinely angry that Trump had blown open the entire plan, for the entire part - as if all of the candidates would somehow be able to avoid the media calling them anti-Hispanic for some newly-invented ‘micro-aggression’...was never going to happen anyway.

So between the threat of no big money and, most likely, the inability of the Republican candidates to do their own polling at that time, they all acceded to the demands, and just as in 2008 and 2012, immigration was ‘just another issue’, at best.

Yet the Republican base is and has been SEETHING about the issue for almost a decade...so Trump was no genius, Cruz could have done the same, and Sanatorum, for that matter. But they did not. It doesn’t mean they supported Amnesty, it just meant that they felt constrained by party dictates.


74 posted on 11/27/2015 9:05:38 AM PST by BobL (Who cares? He's going to build a wall and stop this invasion.)
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To: BobL
Cruz could have done the same, and Sanatorum, for that matter. But they did not. It doesn’t mean they supported Amnesty, it just meant that they felt constrained by party dictates
Sez it all right there.
103 posted on 11/27/2015 10:56:10 AM PST by lewislynn ( Ted Cruz will never be elected President)
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To: BobL; Liz

“Cruz could have done the same, and Sanatorum, for that matter. But they did not. It doesn’t mean they supported Amnesty, it just meant that they felt constrained by party dictates.”

Which means they could continue that into the White House. If being beholden to anyone - the RNC or donors - changes one’s actions, they cannot be trusted. JMO.


116 posted on 11/27/2015 1:51:56 PM PST by CottonBall
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......the Republican base has been SEETHING about the immigration issue for almost a decade...so Trump grabbed onto it. Cruz could have done the same but felt constrained by party dictates.....

And here's a few more discouraging words.

<><> Trump might start hitting Cruz on his votes for the lefty Corker bill and Obama's beloved TPP.

<><> Cruz's fast-tracking TPP vote......knowing Obama considers TPP central to his presidential legacy and to his foreign policy and economic legacies.

<><> Cruz's vote on the Corker bill is a landmine....Corker rallying the radical left to protect Obama on the $150 billion Iran nuclear deal giveaway.

<><> Cruz calling for a 500% increase in H1b work visas.

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American workers DESPISE H1B Visas. A massive expansion of H1Bs puts struggling Americans out of work.

No 'conservative' in their right mind would ever vote for deals which put Americans out of work. Cruz will not change his position on H1B visas....b/c pro-amnesty Goldman Sachs contributes to his campaign (Cruz's wife is a Goldman Sachs exec).

Club For Growth likes Cruz - they are also for amnesty open borders. ===========================================

Cruz also has highly suspect ties to those Hillary lovers, the Democratic-centric, Goldman Sachs, and, the Council on Foreign Relations.

Cruz's wife is a Goldman Sachs exec.

Mrs Cruz served on the North American Union task force, and supported their report called---'Building a North American Community."

The North/South border effort was sponsored by the Council on Foreign Relations in association with the Canadian Council of Chief Executives and the Consejo Mexicano de Asuntos Internacionales.

Translated into English, that means forget US sovereignty....just eradicate US borders.

To be fair, Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship....recently.

118 posted on 11/27/2015 2:15:34 PM PST by Liz (SAFE PLACE? A liberal's mind. Nothing's there. Nothing can penetrate it.)
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