[amorphous]

When you yourself asked this question:

Why do so many people on free republic want to believe everything Putin and Russia says?

You are in effect saying the following:

[Why do so many people on free republic want to believe everything Putin and Russia says over what Obama / Erdogan says.]

Then you go and lump our still patriotic forces in with Obama's lies, when our own pilots say 75% of their missions against ISIS were aborted by Obama and our intelligent annalists have went public with information of threat assessments altered.

Remember Obama saying he was going to fundamentally change America? Maybe those now running the country don't really represent what America once stood for. The old America wouldbe defending innocents in the M.E. instead of growing Muslim terrorists who slaughter them.

Each must decide for themselves. I'm picking true Christian(s) over Muslims every time.

Trust but verify.

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"Why do so many people on free republic want to believe everything Putin and Russia says over what Obama / Erdogan says"

As far as this plane being shot down, the truth will come out. There's no doubt that Russia has been routinely violating Turkey's airspace. Why is it so hard to believe they did it again? Russia's interest is to keep Asaad in power, their interests do not align with our interests which is the destruction of ISIS.