Posted on 11/24/2015 7:46:37 AM PST by Trumpinator
4 November 2015 at 2:50pm
Turkmen forces claim they shot dead two Russian pilots
Turkmen forces in Syria claim they have shot dead the two pilots of a Russian fighter jet downed by Turkey near its border.
A deputy commander of a Turkmen brigade said the pilots were shot in the air as they descended with parachutes.
Alpaslan Celik, a deputy commander in a Syrian Turkmen brigade said: "Both of the pilots were retrieved dead. Our comrades opened fire into the air and they died in the air."
The commander was speaking near the Syrian village of Yamadi as he held what he said was a piece of a pilot's parachute. Last updated Tue 24 Nov 2015
On 31 March 1921, an independent Soviet Republic of Abkhazia was proclaimed. On 21 May 1921, the Georgian Bolshevik government officially recognized the independence of Abkhazia. But the same year, under pressure from Stalin and other influential Georgian Bolsheviks, Abkhazia was forced to conclude a union (i.e., confederative) treaty with Georgia. Abkhazia still remained a full union republic until 1931, when its status was downgraded, under Stalin's orders, from that of Union Republic to that of an Autonomous Republic within Georgia. This act of incorporation of Abkhazia into Georgia was conducted without the approval and against the will of the Abkhazian people and caused mass protests in Abkhazia. Thus the creation of the Abkhazian Autonomous Republic within Georgia was not the result of the granting by the Bolsheviks of autonomous status to one of the republic's minorities, as it is often alleged, but was rather the forced convergence of two neighbouring states by the incorporation of one of them, Abkhazia, into the other, Georgia.
Your ethnic grudge against Russia aside, does not support your position that Russia started the war against Georgia - the EU report said otherwise and that the man who started that war is now wanted in his country for criminal behavior.
Ironic since the same can be said of the Ukraine and Crimea’s territory in relation to Russia under the Soviets.
I have already told you what they are up to.
By encouraging dissention in the formerly joined republic, they improve and speed up the chances of eventual incorporation back into the Russian sphere of influence.
It’s not rocket science.
The Ukraine is the same....
Soon enough it will be some of the others and eventually we will come full circle back to Poland and of course Germany and the rest of Europe..
“When you try to kill the King, you better make sure he’s dead.”
We did not do that and let them get up off the mat.
So the BEAR is back...
The only thing ironic here is that I spent most of my life either in fear of,(duck and cover) worried about,(missile crisis) or in total opposition to ( US Army 3rd AD in East Germany)the Russians and/or the former soviet union.
So here you are, in the US, on my chosen political forum, trying to sell me on the ethics of Russians and the good they do.
Now that is irony.
Thanks for Stalin by the way. Was he a relative? It’s a small country so not an odd question.
The USSR was not Russia. Stalin was a Georgian not a Russian.
How funny! Russians that used to post here years ago used the same line of bs.
lol, okay ;) (you sexy beast)
I Know where Stalin was born.
I know where Khrushchev called home as well..
But you do understand that the Ukraine and Georgia were not exactly free to determine their own future at the time..
So Russians, were born everywhere.
And yes, even during the soviet days, mother Russia (as they referred to her, still existed.
You are just a prick, looking for a legitimate argument and searching for a cogent thought.
You have found neither..
Russian site with their description of Plane in Syrian airspace. google translate or russian language links
http://lifenews.ru/news/171620
Barry in Turkey yesterday? Coincidence?
From Russia Today, (excuse me if posted already)
Russia deploys missile cruiser off Syria coast, ordered to destroy any target posing danger
https://www.rt.com/news/323329-russia-suspend-military-turkey/
So Stalin was a Russian? Not a Georgian? How so?
Oh boy.....
I can now make a fairly accurate prediction...
Sometimes when they want to be seen, Russian military will turn on their responder and show up on radar.
Very rare is it the plane (commercial) that fly into Syria or Iraq.
The radar (flightradar24) is fascinating. (traffic now over the ME)
https://www.flightradar24.com/35.32,51.68/4
Do I want to know? or will it give me a headache?
You really should give this line of argument up.
Even though Stalin was born of Georgian stock, he did not claim that heritage. in fact he even changed his surname so it would not be so obvious.
So it’s a moot point...as are all of your points..
It will give you a headache..
Let’s just say, if Putin does not back out of this mess, a accident (if that is the apt term) will occur and ISIS, Muslims, terrorists, Assad, Syria, and turkey will mean nothing at all in the coming days...
I’ll start my Diet Dr. Pepper now then.
Sure,,,I am sure that coalition forces are using transponders.
The Russian have them, but that’s not the error they are making..
They are ignoring the Turkish border and could have easily adjusted their tactics in a zone near that border.
Now Putin is threatening Turkey within only hours of the incident..
It’s all occurred before in differing era’s, and different minutia..
It’s just that history always repeats..and Russia also repeats it’s mistakes and it’s arrogance.
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