Comparing elections in Turkey to those held in Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua is just pure nonsense. It is apples and oranges. So you believe that Obama was not elected legally or legitimately twice? Denial just ain't a river in Egypt.
Isn't it always apples and oranges though? No two things are alike. I think the point still stands, it is what leftists use to put their foreign darlings above criticism, let alone economic or military intervention. Don't get me started on President DingleBarry though, he may be technically legally elected, but he is not legitimate or remotely qualified. He violates the spirit if not the letter of the NBC requirement and every stone should have been overturned to prevent him from getting near the oval office. Start another thread to argue this one though!
You get the government you deserve.
Obviously! Look at us. Does it make it okay? Not in my opinion. Not in a world governed by the aggressive use of force ( Rush ) or in a world governed by the aggressive use of political correctness ( Bammy's world ). But unless I'm misreading your point, you seem to be saying we need to resign ourselves to this, majority rule, minorities crushed. You must see where it all winds up.
I don't know how old you are, but that has not always been the case. The times I visited Turkey, it was quite secular. It is only fairly recently that it has descended in Islamic fundamentalism. Mustafa Kemal Ataturk brought Turkey into the modern world. My daughter's roomate in boarding school and college was from Turkey. She is currently running her father's business in Turkey at age 40.
Old. They have been relatively stable for the past few decades but not before that. Secularism, their defining characteristic was in fact largely thanks to the man you cite. But now here we are, the fat part of a hundred years later and his fellow Moslems in all corners of the world are remembering their scriptures, taking notice of the weakness of the West and moving the ball down the field in a game that has no clock and with referees who only throw flags on our team. Just how long can secular Turkey last in this game? The one thing worse than a moderate Moslem country attached to NATO where we are on the hook for every stupid thing they might do, would be a radical Moslem country attached to NATO where we are on the hook for every stupid thing they might will do. Erdogan is a step back, he is Obama's puppet, and he is backed by NATO. We have good reason to speak up now.
How about this. Would anyone trust them to have a nuclear arsenal ( I mean their own, not NATO missiles )? I've got nothing against them myself as many others do, but I think it is a Western myth that we need to cozy up to Turkey as a bulwark against radicalism to show us as compassionate to the rest of the world. It's deeper than that actually. All the 'separation of Church and State' seems aimed only here in the USA, particularly at Christians, meanwhile we prop up Islamic regimes and pay for God knows what in these countries. But what do I know. I was against Camp David because paying either Egypt or Israel billions a year violates our First Amendment in my view. Call me crazy.
BTW I just heard Levin on the radio giving tacit support of that shootdown, 'they were warned'! But he's being absurd. Will he do the same if a French or American plane drifts over Crimea or anywhere else? Ridiculous.
You must be Greek.:-) LOL. Good one. How about Roman?
F*cking Greeks Turks!