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To: dragnet2

“You believe Obama/U.S., are genuinely concerned about Russia violating Turkey’s borders as our own sovereign borders get violated 10,000 times per day? Really?”

I don’t believe Obama gives two craps about Turkey. I also believe that the Russians violated Turkish territory because they’ve been routienly playing the same games in Eastern Europe. Ultimately, Turkey responded as they repeatedly said they would, and frankly there’s not a single damn thing the Russians will do about it. They can’t afford a direct conflict with Turkey, because they can’t effectively operate in the Mediterranean without Turkey’s consent. Turkey controls the Bospurus and Dardanelles, the Black Sea Fleet can’t move and Russia can’t easily resupply their base in Tartus if Turkey bans their ships from the straits. Russia will back down here, because it’s stupid for them to do anything else. Turkey didn’t stab Russia in the back. Turkey hates Russia more so than any NATO member other than Poland. It’s not their fault if Russia forgot that they’re not friends. Erdogan hates Obama as well. This has nothing to do with us. Everything isn’t about us and our silly administration.


133 posted on 11/24/2015 12:40:50 PM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war always means failure.")
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To: Blackyce

I also believe that the Russians violated Turkish territory because they’ve been routienly playing the same games in Eastern Europe. Ultimately, Turkey responded as they repeatedly said they would, and frankly there’s not a single damn thing the Russians will do about it.


Russian aircraft violated Turkish air space (again) while bombing ethnic Turkish villages in Syria. It shouldn’t be a surprise Turkey got fed up and punched Putin in the nose.


144 posted on 11/24/2015 2:30:33 PM PST by lodi90
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To: Blackyce

If you believe all that, you’ll believe anything.


149 posted on 11/24/2015 3:20:58 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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