Warplane crashes in Syria near Turkey’s border

Anadolu Agency Turkey ^ | 24NOV2015 | Staff

[AdmSmith]

They are run by https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Intelligence_Organization_(Turkey)

[Jimmy Valentine]

Constantinople. You may not be reaching at all. It has been every Tsars dream since Peter the Great to control the Bosphorus and the Dardenells.

[TigerLikesRooster]

So this is what transpired so far:

Turks claim that a Russian warplane intruded into its air space and their plane shot it down after giving repeated warnings.

Russians claim that the plane was inside Syria, and shot down by ground fire.

Pilots parachuted down. One dead, and the other captured by Turkomens who are probably allies of Turks.

So what is Russia's response going to be if Turks insist that they shot it down because it violated its air space? This gets interesting.

[AdmSmith]

Who knows, perhaps stopping all tourist flights to Turkey?

But, this is probably a crucial moment for Putin, will he back down, or step up. My guess is back down. The Russian economy is in free fall:

Stock market down 3 - 4 % so far today http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RTS.RS&ql=0

USD/Ruble = 66 and falling

http://www.xe.com/en/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=RUB&view=12h

Oil price 45 http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/CO1:COM

[mulder1]

How about a little clarification of photo in english please?

[grey_whiskers]

I seem to recall we store a bunch of B-61 gravity bomb nukes at Incirlik.

I sure hope those are guarded better than, say, Benghazi...

[tcrlaf]

Media is saying Putin to make live statement in the next few minutes.

[AdmSmith]

“How about a little clarification of photo in english please?”

I have problem writing Turkish, Cyrillic an Arabic nowadays at FR (It was possible with an earlier version)

Aidiyeti bilinmeyen uçağın (Aidiyeti bilinmeyen ucagin) = The unknown aircraft belonging

çıkış (cikis)= exit
giriÅŸ (giris) = entry

[palmer]

I hope the pilots have enough carbon credits to cover the CO2 released when the plane crashed.

[mulder1]

Okay, thanks for your post anyway.

[AdmSmith]

Bad if true:

Rebel FSA source: The 2nd pilot of #Russia’s Su-24 is also dead. (picture) https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/status/669124146798968832

[AdmSmith]

https://twitter.com/beast_behind/status/669125666575687680

[AdmSmith]

No visible wounds on the body, crush injuries to the head?

[Tommyjo]

Where have you been? Turkey joined NATO in 1952.

[Dog]

Whoa...this is bad...what a frigging mess.

[AdmSmith]

Similar incident 2012. Downed Turkish F4:

Turkish-Syrian joint search and rescue mission continues as Turkey waits to decide on action until it has been determined where exactly the jet was located when it was shot down.

Both sides have agreed that the Turkish plane was in violation of Syrian airspace, but Turkish officials say it is “normal” for reconnaissance jets to cross the border in routine operations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpGCzNifCeQ

[Patton@Bastogne]

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Mother of God ...

This mess will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it ...






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[AdmSmith]

“this is bad...what a frigging mess.”

Yes, COD? https://twitter.com/rabiih/status/669131695724040192

[AdmSmith]

Why Turkey is involved and is colluding with ISIS: Turkey Fears A Kurdish State More Than The Islamic State

https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/07/28/turkey-fears-a-kurdish-state-more-than-the-islamic-state/

and why Russia is doing the same with ISIS: How Russia Manipulates Islamic Terrorism. https://kyleorton1991.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/how-russia-manipulates-islamic-terrorism/

[demshateGod]

I read they are both dead.