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To: Art in Idaho

Actually, No.

If you ever lived through the USSR era in your adulthood, you’d know that the Soviets never allowed Islam as a religion to surface or gain control in the USSR. Islam was the antithesis of what Soviets wanted or believed in.

It’s been mainly after the fall of the USSR that we’ve seen Islam or Islamism gain prominence on the world stage.

Although ‘Islamism’ exists since ““Sayyid Qutb and the Origins of Radical Islamism” in post #12 in this thread. The Soviets did their best to curb Islam and Islamism, even in the M.E.

I think we often confuse Islam or Islamism per Qutb’s stance which was against America and “materialism” - the latter as an ideology. Vast differences between Qutb, and today’s ISIS (Daesh) and mullahs in Iran.


27 posted on 11/21/2015 11:24:24 PM PST by odds
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To: odds
Thank you for your comment. Interesting.

I wonder if the Soviets nationally didn't like Islam and fought to suppress it but the NWO Marxists like Obama see it as a 'help' to worldwide communism.

The 'useful idiot' concept in that radical Jihadis are anti-Western and anti-American and they can do the Marxists dirty work or 'speed up' their goals. Almost an international Cloward-Piven.

The conflict for the Marxists if what if their theory doesn't work and they too are overwhelmed by Islam.

28 posted on 11/22/2015 12:15:09 PM PST by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: odds
Islam was the antithesis of what Soviets wanted or believed in.

I would say that relatively speaking from a matter of perspective relative to USSR Communists you are correct. However, from an American perspective Islam was an enemy of the USSR for the same reason the Nazi Reich was. Islamoists allied with the fascist Nazis allied with the Japanese; each wanting to dominate and impose their flavor of tyranny. No doubt, if the Axis won they would have fought each other for dominance just as we see in the Sunni Shia Middle East conflicts right now. After World War Two, there was an intentionally imposed deNazification program; however, there was never imposed a deIslamification program and I would suggest the Islamic terrorism we see today is a predictable result of appeasing for political convenience the evil known as Islamic ideology.

From an American perspective, Communism, Socialism, Islamism and Fascism are all tyrannical and totalitarian (Leftist) ideologies.

29 posted on 11/22/2015 7:36:13 PM PST by DBeers (�)
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