Posted on 11/21/2015 2:44:25 PM PST by lqcincinnatus
And you post crap you can’t back up.
L
Are you interested in hearing it backed up from Scripture?
I’m interested in you naming a time God reached down and miracled something anytime in the last thousand years.
L
Start with every birth? Every salvation too?
You think God is something for yesteryear, and now it’s all our puppy. Well, God will permit us to treat it as our puppy if we insist, but He guarantees failure as a result. Your proposed counter jihad is going up against the gates of hell. God said something 2000 years about that and it hasn’t been rescinded.
I.e. the devil can “miracle” too. Spurn and mock and flout God, and He will be happy to let the devil be the only “miracleing” power in the picture.
None of this has been made up by me. All of this is backed up in Scripture.
Just whatever I decree it is...
Aren’t you an aficionado of the Jewish side of things?
I think a lot of your countrymen would take umbrage at “God doesn’t do any miracles for us.” And I’m just going as far back as the founding of Eretz Yisroel.
I’m an agnostic.
So, what direct intervention has He done in the last 1000 years?
I note you dodged that question again.
How about that missile He had blow into the ocean. How about the unexpected victory of the Yom Kippur War.
Good grief, no wonder God doesn’t want to do miracles for you. You’d be pooh-poohing it at once.
How about AmeriCANs who CAN learn from the best history of all, the bible?
I’ve been known to read, and frequently quote, that book.
People have been mistaking me for a Christian since high school.
Fine and dandy. Do you regard this Bible as a collection of well accepted memes? That is, well accepted among men, among which you in turn have your business and can impress and get flattery, etc.? Or do you regard this Bible as something that is about Someone profound and transcendent that you can actually meet?
Jesus himself tied miracle presentation to miracle acceptance. He ain’t there to be anyone’s stage magician. He’s there to step up to be a Savior, if embraced forever in that role, not treated as a hireling.
I.e. don’t expect God to save your hiney if you have no intent on His saving your soul... and if miracles from God have seemed scarce (I’m allowing a form of the premise) while evil has gotten more rampant, and the appearance of Islam on the scene seems to bespeak the latter, it may have reflected a drastic dwindling in faith. The synagogue and church both got institutionalized. God became something important to talk about, not so important to embrace in love. Luther’s move out of the Roman Catholic church seems to look like a desperation move in this light. Gimme God like I need air! And he was hardly a well behaved person, but he knew Who buttered his bread.
Not quite, I regard it more as an excellent study of the human condition, a guide to understanding myself and my fellows, and a road map to a rather disturbing future.
That is, well accepted among men, among which you in turn have your business and can impress and get flattery, etc.?
Knowing it is essential to understanding and living in a Bible based culture, doesn't help quite as much with the younger set.
Or do you regard this Bible as something that is about Someone profound and transcendent that you can actually meet?
I'm an agnostic, I simply don't know this Someone any more than a blind man knows purple.
As an agnostic, how could I even do that???
and if miracles from God have seemed scarce (I'm allowing a form of the premise) while evil has gotten more rampant, and the appearance of Islam on the scene seems to bespeak the latter, it may have reflected a drastic dwindling in faith. The synagogue and church both got institutionalized. God became something important to talk about, not so important to embrace in love.
Love? Did you mean fear?
Luther's move out of the Roman Catholic church seems to look like a desperation move in this light. Gimme God like I need air! And he was hardly a well behaved person, but he knew Who buttered his bread.
True that. I wonder if his Bread Butterer actual existed.
And he was hardly a well behaved person
Well behaved persons don't change the status quo...
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