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President Trump? Part 2: What if he's the nominee?
Conservative Review ^ | 11/18/2015 | Steve Deace

Posted on 11/20/2015 8:40:20 AM PST by JediJones

...Trump could absolutely win the nomination...the traditional coalition it takes for a Republican to win the White House may have to be reconfigured with Trump as standard-bearer.

...alliance of pro-life Catholics and evangelicals...became the dominant force in the GOP's grassroots...

Since Roe...every Republican presidential election victory except one has one thing in common-the GOP won the Catholic vote. The lone exception was in 2000...

If Republicans do not run a strong pro-life candidate for president, they don't have enough else in common with Catholic voters to win the Catholic vote. And Trump is not a strong pro-life candidate. Just a few months ago Trump was named Planned Parenthood's "favorite Republican."

There are two other important factors to contemporary Republican presidential election victories-energizing evangelicals and winning middle class voters.

A candidate who mocks what spiritual conversion can do to renew someone's life, as Trump just did during a campaign stop in Iowa last week, is going to have a hard time energizing evangelicals.

...there is evidence he would perform well with middle class voters in the general. And every time Republicans have won middle class voters since 1980, they've won the White House. According to polling analysis, the lower the income and the bluer your collar, the more likely you are to support Trump...

Nevertheless, if Trump sees erosion in the GOP's values voter base, he's going to need to add other constituencies to his existing supporters... Especially when you consider Trump's willingness to alter his positions on the fly, because virtually every even moderately conservative position Trump is taking now is a contradiction of his previous progressive positions. Therefore, one could certainly come to the conclusion he is taking these positions now to cater to the primary electorate, and then will pivot away from several of them in the general...

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: catholics; clinton; elections; evangelicals; trump
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To: JediJones

I don’t care who endorses whom. I form my own opinions from the facts at hand and long experience.


41 posted on 11/20/2015 10:42:54 AM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: JediJones

I appreciate you, Jedi, and always have, but Cruz will not be winning the Republican nomination.

You may disagree with me, but the Evangelical religious right has shrunk, in the Republican Party. I think we all see that traditionally, after Iowa, they seldom are heard from again.

Liberal Catholics will not support Cruz. Many evangelicals are still with TRUMP even, in Iowa.

While the R Party is home to evangelicals, the party as a whole is not evangelical and not especially conservative but for maybe fiscal and economic issues. (And even on this they are wobbly, having gone globalist.)

I don’t know where the votes would ever hope to come from for a strictly religious and dogmatic conservative candidate, in this era.

Trump passes the threshold test, thanks be to GOD, on life issues and then moves his campaign onto national security, border security and illegal immigration.

The liberal Catholic voter loves open borders and so does the USCCB.


42 posted on 11/20/2015 12:18:34 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: JediJones

Cruz endorsing radio host.

Well, that certainly explains his bias, as well as his credentials ;-)


43 posted on 11/20/2015 1:03:42 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Jane Long

It explains that he, like Cruz, is one of the most long-time, consistent conservatives on the political scene and supports like-minded candidates.


44 posted on 11/20/2015 1:30:37 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: RitaOK

He’s pointing to data as recent as 2004 that shows Republican presidents win when they win the Catholic vote, among other groups. No one’s saying they win liberal Catholics, just over 50% of all Catholics (conservatives and moderates I suppose, or single-issue abortion voters who could be liberal everywhere else).

This isn’t about saying the whole party is Catholic or evangelical. It’s saying they’re an important part of the coalition. And if you put up a candidate who isn’t convincingly pro-life then you might lose just enough of them to lose the election. Steve Deace is an evangelical Christian himself so he speaks with credibility on the issue.

Cruz has no problem winning the general election and getting all the support he needs. If Reagan and Bush can win, Cruz can win. He’s a similar figure to both of them in his positions and presentation.


45 posted on 11/20/2015 1:40:21 PM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: JediJones

LOL....okay ;-)


46 posted on 11/20/2015 2:03:51 PM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: JediJones

Sure, but I’m not comparing midterms to presidential elections; I’m referring to us conservatives being lied to by politicians claiming to be conservative but when we elect them they do not promote a conservative agenda.

AND that has absolutely given room for Trump, Carson, Fiorina and to a degree Cruz, who is considered a burr in the RINOs side, in other words, outsiders—to ascend to the top of the heap this election. If McConnell and Boehner had gone after the Obama agenda with hammer and tongs then they may have still lost, but they would be our heroes, and this would probably have given us a whole different set of Republican candidates for 2016.

The dismayed conservative branch of the Republican party has had it with the GOPe/RINO/CoC wing, whether that be the Bushes, Doles, McCains and Romneys in the Presidential elections; or McConnell, Boehner, Cantor, et all in the midterms.


47 posted on 11/20/2015 2:12:43 PM PST by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: JediJones

Thanks, Jedi.


48 posted on 11/20/2015 2:15:16 PM PST by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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