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What ISIS Really Wants
The Atlantic ^ | March 2015 | Graeme Wood

Posted on 11/19/2015 8:56:16 AM PST by AZLiberty

What is the Islamic State?

Where did it come from, and what are its intentions? The simplicity of these questions can be deceiving, and few Western leaders seem to know the answers. In December, The New York Times published confidential comments by Major General Michael K. Nagata, the Special Operations commander for the United States in the Middle East, admitting that he had hardly begun figuring out the Islamic State’s appeal. “We have not defeated the idea,” he said. “We do not even understand the idea.” In the past year, President Obama has referred to the Islamic State, variously, as “not Islamic” and as al-Qaeda’s “jayvee team,” statements that reflected confusion about the group, and may have contributed to significant strategic errors.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: holywar; isis; islam; jihad; muslim
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This insightful article hasn't been reposted since its initial appearance in February. It's even more relevant now.
1 posted on 11/19/2015 8:56:17 AM PST by AZLiberty
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To: AZLiberty

“Caliphate”


2 posted on 11/19/2015 8:59:21 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: Patton@Bastogne

“global Caliphate” — Western Hemisphere included


3 posted on 11/19/2015 8:59:58 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne
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To: AZLiberty

Total World Domination, claiming it’s for Islam & Allah.


4 posted on 11/19/2015 9:01:27 AM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: AZLiberty

Here’s the second paragraph, without the quote artifacts (I hope):

Where did it come from, and what are its intentions? The simplicity of these questions can be deceiving, and few Western leaders seem to know the answers. In December, The New York Times published confidential comments by Major General Michael K. Nagata, the Special Operations commander for the United States in the Middle East, admitting that he had hardly begun figuring out the Islamic State’s appeal. “We have not defeated the idea,” he said.”We do not even understand the idea.” In the past year, President Obama has referred to the Islamic State, variously, as “not Islamic” and as al-Qaeda’s “jayvee team,” statements that reflected confusion about the group, and may have contributed to significant strategic errors.


5 posted on 11/19/2015 9:01:51 AM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
Caliphate...sounds like spit up phleghm.
6 posted on 11/19/2015 9:03:07 AM PST by Sasparilla
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To: SandRat
Total World Domination, claiming it’s for Islam & Allah.

Nothing short, non negotiable. It is them or us.

7 posted on 11/19/2015 9:04:12 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The Bush family needs to just go away. The Clinton family needs just to go to prison.)
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To: AZLiberty

Wow, thousands of words to say this:

“Everybody in the world on a prayer rug five times a day facing Mecca...or die.”


8 posted on 11/19/2015 9:04:57 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (For those who understand, no explanation is needed. For those who do not, no explanation is possible)
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“We have not defeated the idea, - he said. - We do not even understand the idea.”

An insightful comment into the cluelessness of President Obama’s appointees.

A great deal has been written about the appeal of radical Islam for decades.

This fool says he has no clue? He has not done his homework.


9 posted on 11/19/2015 9:06:19 AM PST by marktwain
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To: AZLiberty

I guess the Atlantic feels compelled to cover for Obama by saying the focus and purpose of ISIS is not clear. Obama knows exactly what ISIS is. Now all the libs will go around talking about how perplexing it all is. They already are calling the Paris op a “complex” operation. Get some guys to go in a shoot up a dance hall...so complex..


10 posted on 11/19/2015 9:06:43 AM PST by BRK
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To: AZLiberty

When I read Ezekiel Chapter 38 & 39; I see the FURY of
Yahweh coming up in His face at the attack by these
Jihadists on Jerusalem. - I don’t wish judgment off on
anyone; but it is what it is.


11 posted on 11/19/2015 9:08:12 AM PST by Twinkie (JOHN 3:16)
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To: Patton@Bastogne; SandRat
The caliphate is just the first step. According to the article, they expect to sack Istanbul, then have their numbers reduced to 5,000 true believers, at which point:

Just as Dajjal prepares to finish them off, Jesus-- the second-most-revered prophet in Islam -- will return to Earth, spear Dajjal, and lead the Muslims to victory.

12 posted on 11/19/2015 9:09:58 AM PST by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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It’s just the latest iteration of global Jihad.

What makes it different is their public relations efforts, or is it Public intimidation department.

You have a number of college educated Islamists running this show, and it’s working for them, at least for now.


13 posted on 11/19/2015 9:10:27 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: SandRat

For the enemy.


14 posted on 11/19/2015 9:10:56 AM PST by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Patton@Bastogne

They want jobs and affordable health care. Oh, and they are very concerned about climate change


15 posted on 11/19/2015 9:15:40 AM PST by PGR88
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To: AZLiberty

So, the “Co-Exist” bumper stickers aren’t as effective as we think?


16 posted on 11/19/2015 9:15:58 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: AZLiberty
So is this article:
People REFUSE to face the FACTS of just how EVIL the Arab-Kenyan Barack Hussein Obama II, (a.k.a. Barry Soetoro), IS !
His IRANIAN SPY, Senior Advisor Valerie Jarrett, is assisting him with is DECEIT AND DESTRUCTION of the United States of America, as we know it.

But when you FORCE the public to see the truth, they are blinded with a God-given, POWERFUL DELUSION!
The ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF is not hard to understand, one you admit to yourself that his goal is the DESTRUCTION of everything we love!
Watch Glenn Beck with Trevor Loudon & his book "Barack Obama and the Enemies Within".
Then watch that 29 minute 13 seconds video Trevor Loudon- An Urgent (and chilling) Message for America.

Read these articles, to get a better understanding of the VILE, and ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF.
17 posted on 11/19/2015 9:19:30 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Cold Heat
You have a number of college educated Islamists running this show, and it’s working for them, at least for now.

They have learned the art of appearing to be what they are not.

18 posted on 11/19/2015 9:24:37 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie (The Bush family needs to just go away. The Clinton family needs just to go to prison.)
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To: Yosemitest

What does ISIS really want?..

For Buckwheat to do his part in bringing down our beloved country..


19 posted on 11/19/2015 9:26:36 AM PST by AFret.
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To: AZLiberty

That’s easy. They want to grow up and inherit their father’s job working for the Saudi Royal Family.


20 posted on 11/19/2015 9:29:44 AM PST by The Toll
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