Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Fhios

An Article V convention cannot submit amendments for ratification without a yes vote from 34 states present.

So, if NY demanded repeal of the second amendment (to use your example), 33 other states would have to concur (and then 38 state legislatures would have to ratify).

Not possible.


3 posted on 11/13/2015 3:06:11 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown Are by desperate appliance relieved Or not at al)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]


To: Jim Noble

Well, my point was I don’t want it even allowed to be a consideration. Scope and Context focused on the objective, otherwise everything outside that scope and context becomes a potential tool of distraction, misdirection or obstruction.

That’s how the leftists operate.


6 posted on 11/13/2015 3:20:45 AM PST by Fhios
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

To: Jim Noble
Jim, it all depends on how the term "states" is defined. Existing state legislatures? Newly elected state conventions? Appointed state delegations? This is not elaborated on in the Constitution.

At the Constitutional Convention I think it was Franklin who said, "For God's sake, be careful who are those men."

My opposition to this convention is simple: where will you find 34 states where you can control "those men?" Let me take my state of OH. Kasich, DeWine, Taft (to some degree), Portman, Boehner et al absolutely control the state. Whether a vote of the legislature or a committee, they would never permit the repeal of the 17th. They MIGHT oppose a repeal of the 2nd, but would support a pro illegal alien measure or a climate change measure and would NOT keep such silly stuff from being introduced.

What about a convention? Who do you suppose structures HOW the convention is assembled/elected/structured?

No one has yet convinced me that even a few states---let alone 34---would structure the "state" response in a way beneficial to us.

13 posted on 11/13/2015 3:40:25 AM PST by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

To: Jim Noble

Since nobody obeys our Constitution now, by what stroke of magic do you think all these other procedural steps would be followed; or the “new” constitution obeyed?

Article V was intended to be utilized by honest, honorable, pro-constitution people. I doubt whether 50% of those salivating for an Article V convention meet that criteria.

Just keep cool, elect Trump & Cruz, and let 16 years of following the REAL Constitution get us back on the track that worked well for two centuries.


15 posted on 11/13/2015 3:57:49 AM PST by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson