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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Are you stupid or just uninformed? I am not sure.

Taking the easy way out, are we? I am neither uninformed nor stupid. You are finding extremely sketchy, way out there pieces of "information" and posting them as if they were mainstream truth. You do not know what you are talking about. You are just cutting and pasting, and flinging the occasional nasty remark as a poor substitute for really know anything about Judaism. You are in love with some idiotic misquote out of context ditty about loving dung, or rocks, or some such. I am quite sure I know NO observant Jew who ever heard of anything like that. Take your misquoted, out of context, in all likelihood not true garbage and haul off.

259 posted on 11/11/2015 5:29:17 PM PST by EinNYC
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To: EinNYC
Taking the easy way out, are we?

Is this what you are disputing?:

"It is hard to know how many Lubavitchers actually believe that their dead rebbe is really the Messiah. But the number is significant. It includes a few of the more important rabbis in the Lubavitch movement in North America, and a higher percentage of Lubavitch leaders in Israel.

A few years after the rebbe’s death, a letter containing a psak halakhah [religious ruling] appeared as a paid advertisement in many Jewish newspapers. Signed by a large number of rabbis associated with the Lubavitch movement, the letter stated that according to halakhah [Jewish law], all Jews were required to profess the belief that the late Rabbi Schneersohn was actually the Messiah. The rebbe, it was claimed, was without doubt a prophet. The rebbe himself had confirmed (according to the letter) that he was the messiah. Since Halachah obligates Jews to believe the words of a prophet, every Jew was required to profess the belief that the rebbe was and still is the messiah."

http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/chabad-messianism/

"Nevertheless, many, if not most of the Habad activists, today publicly proclaim that Rabbi Schneerson will be resurrected as the Messiah. Actually there are several variations of thought: Some believe he will rise from the dead and they should publicly proclaim this message. Others believe it but feel they should keep this belief to themselves. There is still another group which believes he is Messiah and never really died. Then, it is said, there is a small group who believe that he was a great rabbi, but not Messiah, but who are unwilling to express their belief openly."

http://www.maozisrael.org/site/News2?abbr=nav_&id=5131 "Removing his shoes and stepping inside the rough marble tomb where Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson was laid to rest, Shimon Dadon took a scrap of paper from his pocket and scribbled something in Hebrew. "A prayer," said the Israeli school principal, "that he will return, soon."

Dadon then ripped the paper into tiny bits (so no mortal eye could see what he had written) and dropped them on the fresh grave. The pieces fell among hundreds of other scraps of paper - prayers for strength, prayers for wisdom, and prayers that Rabbi Schneerson, grand rebbe of the ultra-Orthodox Lubavitcher sect, would return and reveal himself as Moshiach, the messiah."

http://articles.philly.com/1994-06-28/news/25832625_1_lubavitchers-rabbi-schneerson-messianic-age

I am quite sure I know NO observant Jew who ever heard of anything like that.

Considering I've had plenty of debates with observant Jews who have defended such quotes, telling me that "Demons are real!", and appealing to my faith in Christianity to agree with them (since we believe in devils too), I would say that you either don't know any observant Jews or you're just lying.

260 posted on 11/11/2015 5:44:15 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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