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To: Bellflower; EinNYC
What do Jews think about salvation. Who gets into God’s grace and heaven according to you?

The concept of a spiritual afterlife is a man-made Christian and Muslim belief, and doesn't exist in Judaism.

When Jews refer to Mashiach (messiah), it's in reference to the bringer of the Messianic age here on Earth. Life is the greatest gift HaShem gives to us and to focus on physical death leading to a reward is in complete defiance of his Torah.

218 posted on 11/10/2015 2:42:00 AM PST by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: Read Write Repeat

His Torah.

HaShem forgive my inability to hit the shift key.


219 posted on 11/10/2015 2:44:33 AM PST by Read Write Repeat (Not one convinced me they want the job yet)
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To: Read Write Repeat; Bellflower
The concept of a spiritual afterlife is a man-made Christian and Muslim belief

As a rule, it's best not to ask a Jewish believer these sorts of questions since rarely do you get the same (or correct) answer. Jews are divided amongst Reformed, Orthodox, etc., just as in New Testament times where there were the Sadducees, who rejected the resurrection, and the Pharisees who affirmed it. In the Rabbanical writings, the Rabbis clearly speak of an afterlife, and not one invented by eeevil Christians:

"The spiritual afterlife is referred to in Hebrew as Olam Ha-Ba (oh-LAHM hah-BAH), the World to Come, although this term is also used to refer to the messianic age. The Olam Ha-Ba is another, higher state of being.

In the Mishnah, one rabbi says, "This world is like a lobby before the Olam Ha-Ba. Prepare yourself in the lobby so that you may enter the banquet hall." Similarly, the Talmud says, "This world is like the eve of Shabbat, and the Olam Ha-Ba is like Shabbat. He who prepares on the eve of Shabbat will have food to eat on Shabbat." We prepare ourselves for the Olam Ha-Ba through Torah study and good deeds.

The Talmud states that all Israel has a share in the Olam Ha-Ba. However, not all "shares" are equal. A particularly righteous person will have a greater share in the Olam Ha-Ba than the average person. In addition, a person can lose his share through wicked actions. There are many statements in the Talmud that a particular mitzvah will guarantee a person a place in the Olam Ha-Ba, or that a particular sin will lose a person's share in the Olam Ha-Ba, but these are generally regarded as hyperbole, excessive expressions of approval or disapproval."

http://www.jewfaq.org/olamhaba.htm

"The afterlife is a fundamental of Jewish belief. The creation of man testifies to the eternal life of the soul. The Torah says, “And the Almighty formed the man of dust from the ground, and He blew into his nostrils the SOUL of life” (Genesis 2:7). On this verse, the Zohar states that “one who blows, blows from within himself,” indicating that the soul is actually part of God’s essence. Since God’s essence is completely spiritual and non-physical, it is impossible that the soul should die. (The commentator Chizkuni says this why the verse calls it “soul of LIFE.”)"

That’s what King Solomon meant when he wrote, “The dust will return to the ground as it was, and the spirit will return to God who gave it.” (Ecclesiastes 12:17)"

http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/jewish-afterlife-beliefs/

221 posted on 11/10/2015 4:37:30 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Read Write Repeat
When Jews refer to Mashiach (messiah), it's in reference to the bringer of the Messianic age here on Earth. Life is the greatest gift HaShem gives to us and to focus on physical death leading to a reward is in complete defiance of his Torah. >

What can I say? All of Scripture is inundated with the truth of the afterlife. All I can do for you is suggest that you prayerfully read the Torah. Please read it as though you were reading it for the first time without the prejudice of man's indoctrination overriding your thoughts. Please let The Father of Lights be your teacher and don't let pride rule. May He bless you with abundant truth. He will if you let Him.

231 posted on 11/10/2015 2:55:19 PM PST by Bellflower (It's not that there isn't any evidence of God, it's that everything is evidence of God.)
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